Intergalactic Summit

Basically this is a continuing of the former discussion in the P.P.C thread.

I would suggest popcorn.

I have yet to see an argument that is reasonable, that would simultaneously justify Amarrian slavery, while not justifying Sansha, Angel, blood raider, etc practices. Still waiting on that.

I fail to see the difference if your god wants to keep someone in a cage so that, their blood can be used in some ritual later, or of your god wants you to keep them in a cage so that you may profit from their labor while destroying their culture.

If religious, and cultural freedoms are upheld, then this would only lead to these freedoms taking away the individual freedoms of others. If they aren't upheld, then Amarrians have no special right to infringe on others rights than anyone else.

That is because you will only accept a secular argument, even though it is not a secular issue.

Hmm...

You know, at first I was going to disagree with you. Since slavery is practiced in most of the rest of the known galaxy, I was going to suggest that it is completely a secular issue. Slavery provides people with cheap, effective and disposable labor. It also serves to cull weakness from our species by limiting the amount of successful procreation and progeny by the genetically inferior. Only in Amarr (and by extension Sani Sabik) space is the practice of slavery attached to religion. To everyone else, it is business.

But where did the concept come from? I must admit that I am unfamiliar with the ancient history of the Gallente/Caldari people, so I'm not sure if slavery was ever practiced there. And I'm fairly certain the Matari were unfamiliar with the concept until the Amarr showed up.

So maybe it really isn't a secular issue. If slavery began solely in Amarr, then perhaps we all need to take another look at why it is practiced outside of the Empire, how it is practiced inside of the Empire and what steps can be taken to make sure that the Empire alone holds the right and maintains sole responsibility for every slave since the start of the Reclamation.

It doesn't matter where it started. If the Amarr were the first to wear robes and did so in religious ceremonies and other saw it and went "Hey, that's rather fashionable. I'm going to wear one too" without any religious reason, it doesn't mean the act of wearing a robe is a religious act. It's just a piece of cloth over their bodies if they are not persuing a religious reason for wearing them.

A thing or an act carries a meaning with it if it's done for an intent. The meaning is not there if the intent is not there.

Sshhh. Only the Amarrian religion gets a free pass. Because they said so. Don't talk silly like that.

Still ignoring my question.

Also why does it matter to others if God told you to do it or not? You view the Master's will with just as much contempt as many outsiders view your God's. So why should others allow you your practice when you do not allow others theirs? Hint, repeating "Because God said so" is not an acceptable answer.

Samira, you could save a lot of effort if you just said "Because God said so". Would be easier to type, would be easier to read, and mean just as much to us.

I have answered your question. And so has Samira.

Lietenant, you stole the words from my mouth.

I second that notion... Rather highly second that notion.