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Dev Blog: Textures, Shaders, and Dirt, Oh My!

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CCP Logibro
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2015-05-21 14:59:47 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Phantom
The Art department has been busy at work bring an even newer coat of paint to every ship in the game. But at the same time, they've been working to cover them in layers of certified Minmatar dirt. If your ships looking good is something you hold near and dear to your heart, you should read this dev blog by the illustrious CCP Antiquarian.

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Alphax45
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-05-21 15:25:37 UTC
IMHO the old looks better. The new looks dirty (to me).
SilentAsTheGrave
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-05-21 15:30:51 UTC
In rust we trust.
CCP Sledgehammer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#4 - 2015-05-21 15:32:40 UTC
The first set of sliders indicate what a ship could look like if they were as dirty as we possibly allow, not as they will be on release. The second set of sliders are the comparative V5 vs V5++ images.

Graphical QA Analyst | EVE Quality Assurance | Team TriLambda

Nam Dnilb
Universal Frog
#5 - 2015-05-21 15:32:51 UTC
Will there be a ship-wash station service?
l0rd carlos
the king asked me to guard the mountain
#6 - 2015-05-21 15:35:02 UTC
Some of the images are not loading for me. Everything under: "Below are a few examples of ships going from 0% dirt to 100% dirt"
For example:
https://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/devblog/2015/v5plusplus/dirt/Amarr_01_Dirty.JPG

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CCP Sledgehammer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#7 - 2015-05-21 15:35:39 UTC
Nam Dnilb wrote:
Will there be a ship-wash station service?


We aren't enabling ships to get dirtier... yet. As we mentioned in the Fanfest panels, it's definitely something we'd be interested in.

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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
#8 - 2015-05-21 15:36:09 UTC
I feel I need a new gfx card soon...

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CCP Sledgehammer
C C P
C C P Alliance
#9 - 2015-05-21 15:36:36 UTC
l0rd carlos wrote:
Some of the images are not loading for me. Everything under: "Below are a few examples of ships going from 0% dirt to 100% dirt"
For example:
https://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/devblog/2015/v5plusplus/dirt/Amarr_01_Dirty.JPG


There seems to be an issue with certain browsers, are you using Chrome perchance?

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CCP Darwin
C C P
C C P Alliance
#10 - 2015-05-21 15:37:58 UTC
Chribba wrote:
I feel I need a new gfx card soon...


The V5++ shader update should improve the look of both "High" and "Medium" shader settings. If you can currently use "High" settings, you should still be able to do so after this update. :)

CCP Darwin  •  Senior Software Engineer, Art & Graphics, EVE Online  •  @mark_wilkins

Titus Tallang
EVE University
Ivy League
#11 - 2015-05-21 15:40:01 UTC
Positively gorgeous. Great work.

However, I am somewhat saddened by the (once again) exclusion of T3 cruisers, since these are some of the primary ships I fly.

Legacy code (or rather, legacy graphics?) is a pain.

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TheSmokingHertog
Julia's Interstellar Trade Emperium
#12 - 2015-05-21 15:40:55 UTC
CCP Sledgehammer wrote:
l0rd carlos wrote:
Some of the images are not loading for me. Everything under: "Below are a few examples of ships going from 0% dirt to 100% dirt"
For example:
https://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/devblog/2015/v5plusplus/dirt/Amarr_01_Dirty.JPG


There seems to be an issue with certain browsers, are you using Chrome perchance?


Chrome and Firefox do nothing for me on Windows 7

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Sarmatiko
#13 - 2015-05-21 15:41:00 UTC
So since you changing all textures in the game, what will happen with old obsolete textures in cache after Carnyx?
Do you have automatic cleaning mechanism implemented for occasion or we have to invoke "rescache purge" manually (and non-technical users will enjoy 3-5 Gigabytes of extra data)?
CCP Darwin
C C P
C C P Alliance
#14 - 2015-05-21 15:44:04 UTC
Titus Tallang wrote:
However, I am somewhat saddened by the (once again) exclusion of T3 cruisers, since these are some of the primary ships I fly.

T3 Strategic Cruisers are something of a special snowflake in EVE, so it will require some additional development attention to update them. However, we are well aware of their importance and they'll be incorporated into future releases as we apply V5++ to more assets.

CCP Darwin  •  Senior Software Engineer, Art & Graphics, EVE Online  •  @mark_wilkins

l0rd carlos
the king asked me to guard the mountain
#15 - 2015-05-21 15:44:32 UTC  |  Edited by: l0rd carlos
CCP Sledgehammer wrote:
l0rd carlos wrote:
Some of the images are not loading for me. Everything under: "Below are a few examples of ships going from 0% dirt to 100% dirt"
For example:
https://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/devblog/2015/v5plusplus/dirt/Amarr_01_Dirty.JPG


There seems to be an issue with certain browsers, are you using Chrome perchance?

Does not matter, the browser can't even get the file.


wget https://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/devblog/2015/v5plusplus/dirt/Amarr_01_Dirty.JPG
--2015-05-21 17:43:09--  https://cdn1.eveonline.com/community/devblog/2015/v5plusplus/dirt/Amarr_01_Dirty.JPG
Resolving cdn1.eveonline.com (cdn1.eveonline.com)... 205.185.216.10, 205.185.216.42
Connecting to cdn1.eveonline.com (cdn1.eveonline.com)|205.185.216.10|:443...

Until timeout.

Edit: IT'S BECAUSE OF HTTPS!

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CCP Antiquarian
C C P
C C P Alliance
#16 - 2015-05-21 15:44:56 UTC
Titus Tallang wrote:
Positively gorgeous. Great work.

However, I am somewhat saddened by the (once again) exclusion of T3 cruisers, since these are some of the primary ships I fly.


I intend to make every effort in this matter.

"Singularity pilots are helpful pilots."

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Cleanse Serce
Lonesome Capsuleer
#17 - 2015-05-21 15:46:06 UTC
Good Job GFX team, real good job.

Can't wait to have those clean ships remapped.
Can't wait either to be able to clean my ship after a few fights. :)

Now go redesign Osprey !! Hurry up !! :D
CCP Maxwell
C C P
C C P Alliance
#18 - 2015-05-21 15:47:39 UTC
Sarmatiko wrote:
So since you changing all textures in the game, what will happen with old obsolete textures in cache after Carnyx?
Do you have automatic cleaning mechanism implemented for occasion or we have to invoke "rescache purge" manually (and non-technical users will enjoy 3-5 Gigabytes of extra data)?


For the moment, you will have to use the rescache purge.

We are working on a better system for this.

CCP Maxwell - QA Engineer - Team RnB

CCP Darwin
C C P
C C P Alliance
#19 - 2015-05-21 15:48:58 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Darwin
Sarmatiko wrote:
So since you changing all textures in the game, what will happen with old obsolete textures in cache after Carnyx?
Do you have automatic cleaning mechanism implemented for occasion or we have to invoke "rescache purge" manually (and non-technical users will enjoy 3-5 Gigabytes of extra data)?

Edit: I posted the same thing as CCP Maxwell. Here are instructions to purge the resource cache.

CCP Darwin  •  Senior Software Engineer, Art & Graphics, EVE Online  •  @mark_wilkins

Sir HyperChrist
Persnickety Pilots
#20 - 2015-05-21 15:51:20 UTC
Bugreport.

the link to this article on the launcher opens in Internet Explorer, even though a different browser is setup as default. The link below it to the AT XIII signup opens in Firefox just as at should.

Is this functioning in this way with some purpose?

:)

GL
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