Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I'd rather have the cruisers penalized more through mass gain or sig bloom. Or in other words, smaller ships putting on more 'weight' need to feel the burden as well.
Sadly I am not smart enough to device some function to do this, but having the penalizing attribute inversely correlating in a dynamic way to ship size might work? Like, a BS or BC might feel the weight of a plate and receive some penalty but the much weaker cruiser engines struggle more to move the same mass? In a way that's what agility and mass attributes are already used for, but maybe the penalty needs to be more severe if you are overfitting.

I would call for a slightly more nuanced approach to this, although the focus towards damage projection is the right avenue and would be correct to focus on for most of them.

CALDARI:

Ferox: Should be scaled up from the corm; drop resist bonus and go double range with a 50% tracking bonus into the hull. Use those rails to fry anything you can target. Just hope they don't have a TD and get under your guns.

Drake: 50% velocity bonus is good. Do eet.

Drake Navy: Double velocity bonus, roll missile sig bonus into a role bonus. Give bonuses to light missiles and sit back to watch the fireworks.

AMARR:

Prophecy: Honest to Bob, I'd love to see it get a tracking bonus to lasers. Move a mid to a high slot and give it 6 turrets to work with. Quit it with the stupid split weapons bonus on amarr drone ships already; gallente get hybrid bonus on some of their drone ships, amarr should get lasers. The tracking bonus should help offset the loss of a mid, and should lead to quite a few useful setups for a variety of situations

Harbinger: Optimal range bonus. Lasers by their nature already have excellent damage projection, and giving it a range bonus (and potentially dropping the sig down) would leave it as an excellent option for armor fleets. The big drone bay means that it could defend itself fairly well if anything gets under its guns.

Harbinger Navy: TBH just add the range bonus. While the vanilla harb can remain a strong fleet sniper with decent sustainability in cap and cost, the navy harb can deal better application, and have more options with its myriad mid slots. Fits its current role already.

MINMATAR

Hurricane: Had an evil idea here. Go with a 10% Damage bonus, and a tracking bonus. Role bonus of 50% falloff, and you have the perfect platform for med autos or arty. Would bring back the solo Cane as a thing, and would be particularly useful for any situation.

Cyclone: Same with the Drake. Hams on that thing would be nice.

Hurricane navy: Same bonuses for the above listed hurricane. Difference would be dropping 2 highs for a mid, and going with the slot layout of the beast. Lack of utility high for neut balances it somewhat.

GALLENTE

Brutix: Add a tracking speed bonus. Would assist with its focus as a close range berserker and give it a distinct advantage in mid-range engagements with rails. Add 50m3 to its drone bay to compensate for its lack of range.

Mymidon: Go with the a 50% drone speed bonus. Keeping drone spec with it remains ideal, and separates it from the prophecy. Give it the full 125 mbit bandwidth so while you can go all sentries, they won't benefit from the speed bonus.

Brutix Navy Issue: Optimal range role bonus. It's best suited as a tanky fleet rail boat anyway since its stats predispose it towards that. Would be terrifying to face with logi backing it up.

That could work though Battlecruisers would get hit by it more than cruiser masses.

Still, the best solution would be to rebalance 800mm plates to be for = cruisers, 1600mm for BCs/Battleships. Though that train left many, many years ago and now it would entail a very large overhaul of hull attributes included.

Second-best solution is XL plates.

Whatevski be the case, CCP knows what they're doing. We have best spaceship balance in decades*.

*If you delete battlecruisers and battleships from the game, which are made irrelevant between capitals and their peasant cruiser support.

Alone with these changes should be to increase their agility so that the faction Bc's can fit and use oversize Ab's.

+1 support buffs for BC.

I'm bumping this thread once a day until CCP takes notice.

This gentleman gets it.

I posted ranges earlier - the 32.5-37.5% increase is the sweet spot.

We're not allowed to bump stuff in this forum.

I am Eridon Hermetz , and I support this idea ! +1

In terms of actually taking action, I would like the devs to fix HMLs and to a lesser extent Medium Autocannons before they consider any drastic changes to BC roles.

As for CCP Rise saying BCs are in a relatively good place, I'm curious as to whether he looked at individual hulls or just the use of the class in general. In the latter case I think the use of Myrmidons as cheap Eoses might be hiding the lack of use of the other BCs.