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What do you think CCP needs to focus on?

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Warloxx
Dominus Imperium
#1 - 2015-05-20 16:42:03 UTC
With all the seemly large amount of complainers on the forums about how poorly CCP has handled Eve development, what would you suggest the next steps that need to be done to start bringing in new Subs?
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2015-05-20 16:46:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Ponies, possibly Unicorns. A Panda or two couldn't hurt either.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Gully Alex Foyle
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-05-20 16:48:05 UTC
Warloxx
Dominus Imperium
#4 - 2015-05-20 16:57:51 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Ponies, possibly Unicorns. A Panda or two couldn't hurt either.


Very well thought out and constructive.


DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#5 - 2015-05-20 16:58:55 UTC
Warloxx wrote:
With all the seemly large amount of complainers on the forums about how poorly CCP has handled Eve development, what would you suggest the next steps that need to be done to start bringing in new Subs?



They need to keep doing what they are doing, which is repair old and underused or incomplete systems, before they expand eve. They might take some hit sin subs, but they need to rebuild the foundation.

Example:

1) POS' (being addressed slowly)

2) Sov (being addressed)

3) Corp and alliance interface and roles (being addressed)

4) remove or adjust stocks

5) revamp or add new mining content

6) repair PI (its an incomplete system)

7) adjust t2 moon goo (personally this needs to become active mining not passive)

8) adjust capitals

9) Finish Dogma and BIAB

10) with 9, keep improving back end to fix performance issues

11) Finish or remove WiS (yes it needs ot be addressed damn it, makes eve feel incomplete)


There are more, but foundation must be fixed, then what CCP should do is focus on the eve unverse and create New Eden. As in, all ccp products tied together for ease of use. On one plat form (anything that will be linked or add to eve MUST be on pc so the eve players cna support the new bros.) They also should bring out stand alone, easy to play and use products, like the eve offline arcade game, prjoect nemisis, etc. Things related to the eve universe but can be stand alone.

Valk and legion/dust shoudl all link and work together with eve, this will enable future competition to have issues.

CCP as a company should eventually relook at WoD. But it should not be a focus.

Repair old stuff, expand eve, expand new eden, add new easy to make stand alone games for a rev boost, then look at your other ip's once New Eden is stable.

Finally, be making an EVE v. 2 which is a complete rewrite. but i would of started that ages ago.

My .02 isk. though alot of this is not nesscarily what they need to do, just what i;'d liek to see. (fix foundation and expand is what needs ot happen, slow expantion)

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#6 - 2015-05-20 17:00:37 UTC
Gully Alex Foyle wrote:



twice they tried this, twice it failed.

once in 06 university of Iceland students were making a blackberry/iphone app. They then graduated and project went *pissh*

then in 2013, before they retooled to 'all new eden on pc' which i think they are retooling again.

CCP need sot pick a direction and stick with it lol

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
#7 - 2015-05-20 17:08:57 UTC
CCP should focus on the starter space forest full of space boars that you may hunt in complete safety, as well as a new space island full of a new wonderous alien panda race, new ships that look like winged robot unicorn zebras that have rainbow sparkle cannons as weapons.. and shoulder fedos.

But they should definitely focus ont eh shoulder fedos first.


Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?

admiral root
Red Galaxy
#8 - 2015-05-20 17:11:09 UTC
The game has Angels, but no angel cake. This imbalance needs to be their top priority.

No, your rights end in optimal+2*falloff

Warloxx
Dominus Imperium
#9 - 2015-05-20 17:12:17 UTC
I never felt like they did enough over the years for small corps, not all players want to be in Large alliance's and become a number.

From the changes they have made over the years to cater to the Large block alliances it has made it impossible for smaller corporations to get a foothold nearly anywhere, but that is just my opinion.

POS's were suppose to be the stepping stone for those small corps to eventually grow in null, but now with the types of blobs the large alliances can plop down in your front lawn it is simply a very minor road bump.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#10 - 2015-05-20 17:15:02 UTC
Warloxx wrote:
With all the seemly large amount of complainers on the forums about how poorly CCP has handled Eve development, what would you suggest the next steps that need to be done to start bringing in new Subs?


They need to focus on anything else than the seemingly large amount of complainers on the forums. No faster way to ruin something than giving people what they think they want rather than what they actually want.

Give players chunky spaghetti sauce. It's what they actually want. Not what they think they want.

Mr Epeen Cool
Chance Ravinne
WiNGSPAN Delivery Services
WiNGSPAN Delivery Network
#11 - 2015-05-20 17:23:01 UTC
To get NEW players, a few things:

1. NPE, this is obvious. While the NPE is better than it's ever been, it is still clunky and onerous.
2. Cut the crap, stuff like attributes that serve little purpose but confuse newbies should be replaced with more meaningful decision making.
3. Dispel myths, there are a lot of myths out there that say it's too late to start Eve or it's only composed of sociopaths. More PR and Real Stories of Eve to demonstrate what productive Eve gameplay is really like.
4. Brand champions, or KOLs/social influencers. Basically people like me, say Youtubers, except ones with sizeable fanbases and name recognition. If I can get thousands of people to try Eve, I can't imagine what someone like Husky or Day9 could accomplish. I'd imagine tens or even hundreds of thousands.
5. Dust/Legion/Valkyrie, for obvious brand and universe building reasons, and as a differentiating point again the competition.

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Warloxx
Dominus Imperium
#12 - 2015-05-20 17:34:41 UTC
Chance Ravinne wrote:
To get NEW players, a few things:

1. NPE, this is obvious. While the NPE is better than it's ever been, it is still clunky and onerous.
2. Cut the crap, stuff like attributes that serve little purpose but confuse newbies should be replaced with more meaningful decision making.
3. Dispel myths, there are a lot of myths out there that say it's too late to start Eve or it's only composed of sociopaths. More PR and Real Stories of Eve to demonstrate what productive Eve gameplay is really like.
4. Brand champions, or KOLs/social influencers. Basically people like me, say Youtubers, except ones with sizeable fanbases and name recognition. If I can get thousands of people to try Eve, I can't imagine what someone like Husky or Day9 could accomplish. I'd imagine tens or even hundreds of thousands.
5. Dust/Legion/Valkyrie, for obvious brand and universe building reasons, and as a differentiating point again the competition.


Couldn't agree more with the NPE and the myth's of "it's to late" need to be addressed badly, I have read many stories on other forums of players saying they had no idea what to do after they drop you off with no 'theme park' to follow. Which is sad because of they way MMO's are today with the hand holding until max level.

I have picked up alot of new players in this game and have had to give them direction on which skills to train and and they never had issues with keeping up with the fleets, but that part is also on the new players themselves to seek out that help from players corps and get out of the NPC corps they never leave.
Big Lynx
#13 - 2015-05-20 17:42:52 UTC
Super Star Destroyers and Deathstars. Restricted one piece per alliance. The ultimate weapon.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#14 - 2015-05-20 17:51:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Let them first do the new map right, there are still issues.
Scanning must be smooth.
For a future let them implement avatar gameplay. They had prototype. Exploration in structures.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-05-20 18:19:12 UTC
I think CCP is on the right track, 00, Structures, Backend-Performance, ... and the feedback loop works.

I'm my own NPC alt.

Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#16 - 2015-05-20 18:26:21 UTC

How to turn the mess that is called New Player Experience ...
... into a social contruct that works out of itself.
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Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#17 - 2015-05-20 18:34:09 UTC
Cake

Bring back DEEEEP Space!

Lutz
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#18 - 2015-05-20 19:10:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Lutz
I think devs focus way too much on tweaking/updating what's already in EVE and too little on adding new cool stuff. New icons or ships or skins, even substantial changes to sov, are basically only tweaking an aspect of the game or barely more than that. Ofc a mmo needs that and regularly and I think EVE is doing it admiringly. But it also needs brand new stuff, it needs something outside the eve box. While being very careful to not change the spirit of the game ofc, that would be catastrophic...but Nordgren seems to understand that well, so time to experiment a bit more IMHO.

And time to bring Dust, Legion, whatever it's called, to the master race. You could make it open, make dev tools available and modders will turn it into the best fps for you, once you include their work in the game, maybe with recurring competitions w/ prizes.
Jade Blackwind
#19 - 2015-05-20 19:28:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Jade Blackwind
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Ponies, possibly Unicorns. A Panda or two couldn't hurt either.


Perhaps, a secret cow level?

Just imagine a level IV Burner mission filled with Battle Badgers in Thukker Tribe camo (with burner AI), all scrambling and webbing you while frantically broadcasting a garbled string of "Moo! moooo! MOO MOO MOO! Moooooooooo!!!" in drunk Icelandic voices.
DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#20 - 2015-05-20 19:39:47 UTC
Lutz wrote:
I think devs focus way too much on tweaking/updating what's already in EVE and too little on adding new cool stuff. New icons or ships or skins, even substantial changes to sov, are basically only tweaking an aspect of the game or barely more than that. Ofc a mmo needs that and regularly and I think EVE is doing it admiringly. But it also needs brand new stuff, it needs something outside the eve box. While being very careful to not change the spirit of the game ofc, that would be catastrophic...but Nordgren seems to understand that well, so time to experiment a bit more IMHO.

And time to bring Dust, Legion, whatever it's called, to the master race. You could make it open, make dev tools available and modders will turn it into the best fps for you, once you include their work in the game, maybe with recurring competitions w/ prizes.



you were not here before the summer of rage i take it?

CCP adding new stuff will not help eve. Because the old stuff being left to roit is what will kill eve. This was eve before the summer of rage:

2003: ok guys this is our new house! it might be small now, but we will make improvements over time, come on over and hang out.

2011:

Guys we just installed a second story! Whats that? yea i know the walls are sagging, i know the floor is a mess with holes, i know the kitchen remodle is not finished, i know the basement is not finished, i know the yard is not finished, but guys this second story is shiney! We will add more to... no we will then go for a thrid story! (house fals)


Any new stuff being added right now, is just like adding a second story on a house that has a sub par about to fall apart first story. it doenslt add to the valus eof the game, and will quickly see the issues. becuase it has to be built on what was there before. CCP MUST finish fixing the old issues before they can expand. And for some issues, like pos' its been 10 years since that feature was addressed. Let that sink in.

So no, adding new stuff before old is repaired is bad,

OMG Comet Mining idea!!! Comet Mining!

Eve For life.

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