Ships & Modules

Look at Deep Space Transporters (DST).
w/ Transport Ships V you have a 62.500 m² Fleethangar.
Big enough for 25 Frigs or 12 Destroyers + 5000m² Shiphangar for moduls and ammo for a small deployment.

Skilltraining isn't that long, if you realy want to haul by yourself.

Also, looking in game just now, I see that you need racial industrial to V, which takes almost as long as ASC, but isn't required for all caps, so not as useful elsewhere. Plus Transport is a x6, so by the time that is at level 5, I'll have a freighter with freighter to 4. Only advantage there is the price, definitely a good thing, but trying to be price-agnostic here.

I'm not all that familiar with T1 industrials, but isn't what you want an Ity-5? I'm fairly sure you can rig and cargo expand that bad boy out to pretty decent levels. And no, I'm not going to EFT that up for you to find out for certain, because if you just started EVE you need to know some of the required tools to find these answers yourself.

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/3rd_party_tools?utm_source=Launcher&utm_medium=LauncherAd&utm_term=Wiki&utm_campaign=3rdParty

EFT is a must-have. Just be sure to update it every six weeks when CCP updates the game.

EVEMON is also a must-have for long term character planning.

Both tools are fairly simple to use. It might take a little time to become familiar with all the nice little features they have, but it is well worth it.

With EFT, you won't be asking if there's a ship that fits your need. EFT will show you the answer. When you get that answer from EFT, you'll have to find out if the answer is practical or not. For that, either experience will tell you, or then you can ask that on the forums and it is a much better question to ask.

"I can max cargo out this Ity 5, but should I?"

The Orca can be used as a liaison between the small haulers and the big boyz. it fits a lot of cargo and can be made to warp in 10 seconds, all with about a quarter million EHP.

So that's with expanded cargo 2s in low, rigs for cargo space. Anything else I'm missing?

missing the part about if you carry anything of value you are very easy to kill.

I think if you actually drove a freighter 10 jumps. It would kill off any desire to actually train to fly them.
They are glacial slow and handle like an apartment complex. They are huge targets, because of the vast cargo hold, so only the folks hauling a loads of Veldspar can auto pilot portions of their route.

For the most part the DST is the way to go. Many train Gallente to take advantage of the other T1 indy's that the Gallente have. The ore hauler in particular is very useful.

It is actually faster to use a DST to make 2 trips than use a freighter to make one trip. If there are multiple DST pilots available you can split the load and the risk between them. Haulers get attacked in high sec all the time. Remember that every time you undock. Ask yourself how many Gallente Dessies will it take to kill me and divide that number by the value of your cargo. If your cargo value exceeds the number of Dessies by enough, chances your going to get attacked go up. Especially in busy places like trade hubs, or common routes between these locations.

Finally, buck up and train the L5 racial indy skill. I know it's long, but truth be told L5 indy is nothing compared to what comes later.

At this point I'm guessing you didn't bother to look too closely at the T1 industrials. Each race has at least two, one faster and with smaller cargo space (eg the Sigil for Amarr) and one slower and with larger cargo space (eg the Bestower)

But even the smaller ones are more than 7k with a couple levels of the ship skill and fitted for cargo space.

There is no need for additional haulers. As mentioned T1 haulers can haul up to about 30K with minimal training. Training Gallente haulers gives you the ability to haul large amouts of PI, Minerals or Ores with minimal training. Maxing them out takes time but the value of being able to use DSTs and BRs is well worth the train for Industrial V if you ever plan on leaving highsec and/or hauling valuable cargo in highsec. Orca is the middle ground between Industrial Haulers and Freighters.

Speed, cargo capacity and tank are all factors of hauling, ignoring any part of this equation will lead to severe inefficiency and possibly loss. So while you would like to ignore 2 of the 3 factors in your comparison this is an ignorant thing to do.

If you don't want to train for haulers, you don't have to, there are plenty of players around that will move your stuff for a very small amount of isk via contract.

He beat me to it.

Can this thread be closed now?