Player Features and Ideas Discussion

What could possibly be more Caldari than a kiting missile spamming ship doctrine? It might be hard to balance, but I think the tactical subsystems could be a way to make that work. Either you get range, tank, or speed. But not all three at once. I think a 10% sig radius bonus per level would work well. With that bonus the Jackdaw could perhaps not have as large of a buffer, but could sig/speed tank a lot of the damage. It would still be a fine brawler with all of it's mids and high resists. But I would love to see a "mini-drake" bringing back the kiting missile spam doctrines.

caldari are supposed to like slowkiting imo. it bothers me when they get good speed and sig for no reason.

Actually people were wtf-OP 50km artillery in prop mode. Then some were trololol ship with 2MASBs and a 10mn AB and 300dps+. But calling it bad, no one did that.

I'd rather say that you tried to make a better version of their T1 counterpart.

The Confessor has inspiration from the Coercer

The Svipul has inspiration from the Thrasher

The Jackdaw has inspiration from the Corax


No but seriously though, the Svipul uses turrets, but for all intents and purposes, Jackdaw vs Svipul will follow the same path than Corax vs Talwar. For a reason. Not because the "community as a whole" is bad at EVE.

Again, people fly destroyers because they are fast. You make a slow destroyer, but there are equally resilient and viable choices available (Talwar, Caracal, even Flycatcher or Heretic), so people just won't bother flying it. Even more so given the pricetag.

The Jackdaw should've been, for all intent and purposes, a T2 Talwar. That's what people were expecting. If we want a slow and fat light missile ship, we can pick a caracal. You cannot objectively think that the Jackdaw is only underestimated when EFT says Caracal is better.

Super - Crazy - Random Idea:

Jackdaw gets a fitting bonus to propulsion mods. Allowing it to fit a M-MJD with -50% jump range and activation time. Give it another bonus that reduces the MJD cooldown timer to 30 seconds.

Then the Jackdaw can be a slow ass ****** destroyer that just blinks around the grid laughing at people whilst it spams missiles

Building on this daft idea:

Jackdaw
Caldari Tactical Destroyer Bonuses Per Level:
10% bonus to Rocket and Light Missile damage
5% bonus to rocket and light missile launcher RoF
5% reduction in heat damage generated by modules
Role Bonus:
80% reduction in M-MJD PG and CPU requirements
-50% to MJD jump distance, activation time and activation cost
95% reduction in Scan Probe Launcher CPU requirements

Additional bonuses are available when one of three Tactical Destroyer Modes are active. Modes may be changed no more than once every 10 seconds.
Defense Mode:
33.3% bonus to all shield resistances while Defense Mode is active
33.3% reduction in ship signature radius while Defense Mode is active
Propulsion Mode:
66.6% reduction to MJD cooldown while Propulsion Mode is active
33.3% bonus to ship agility while Propulsion Mode is active
Sharpshooter Mode:
66.6% bonus to Rocket and Light Missile velocity while Sharpshooter Mode is active
100% bonus to sensor strength, scan resolution and targeting range while Sharpshooter Mode is active

Slot layout: 6 H, 6 M, 2 L, 5 launchers

Oh I understand what you want perfectly. I just have a different point of view. That is exactly why I brought up the logistic cruisers. Similar situation there. 2 sets of logistics catering to different kinds of fleets.
I'd like the idea of at least one or two T3Ds giving the option of playing the support role.

But I am with you on switching out the 50HPflat bonus. o7

Wtf. MMJD on a destroyer being proposed?

And you complain CCP don't listen?!

Sheeeeeeeeesh.

Unlike a dev, I can be very selective regarding which posters I read . So when they announced the svipul, was kinda *wtf optimal in the hull to that speed and volley, are they mad or something?* and must've missed some comments.

Out of curiosity, are snakes/links/propmode stacking penalized? I got 2km/s in defensive mode and 2.5km/s in propulsion mode with a 10mn, and that's most certainly not the speed boost on the packaging.

A resist bonus feels like the best fit for a Caldari hull, still gives some shield benefit and doesn't wreck the hull too much. It could even be a 2% per level if a 20% resist bonus would be too powerful for a hull this size. A +boost amount (or any bonus affecting active tanking) doesn't really fit Caldari's "fantasy," and it'd send a mixed message to new players looking to learn various factions' philosophies.