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NPC Jamming and Drones drinking coffee instead of attacking
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Zed Melnibone
Nightshade Holdings
Nightshade Alliance
#1 - 2015-05-16 15:14:50 UTC
Im fairly new to the game and I now have a procurer with hobgoblins. I m a miner and use the drones as my only measure of defence vs NPC rats. Its more than enough really.... IF they get to attack. I've set my drones to aggressive mode and deploy them the moment i set my foot on the asteroid belt. Still, I see them attack the rats randomly when Im jammed (or not) and they continuously need me to lock and give the order of the attack for the first enemy ship (attack and follow is enabled). Whats the reasoning behind having offensive drones in attack/aggressive mode if they dont really go after enemy NPCs that attack you at 4km away. I understand the NPC Jamming is there to stop me from having it all too easy, but shouldnt the drones attack by themselves even when im jammed? I can return and deploy them, so its not like I have no communication with them.

Any help on the matter would be appreciated, inb4, i dont have slots for anti jamming and i dont care about me being jammed, i am obnoxious about my drones sitting like ducks instead of auto attacking.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-05-16 15:47:11 UTC
The only thing I can say, it takes some time before drones take action ... but promptly deployed aggressive drones should work eventually, even if your Procurer is jammed. I'm not sure if NPC's also jam drones ...

I'm my own NPC alt.
Zed Melnibone
Nightshade Holdings
Nightshade Alliance
#3 - 2015-05-16 16:11:43 UTC
i waited 10 minutes (i have a tanky fit) and they didnt even bat an eye. Maybe cause they dont have one.
Erik Sokarad
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2015-05-16 16:13:42 UTC
if the drones are out before you are shot, they respond. if the drones get launched after you are shot, they will wait until either a new hostile shoots you, or until you give them an order to engage. this is a bit counter-intuitive, but it is the behavior i have observed.
Paranoid Loyd
#5 - 2015-05-16 18:27:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
If the rats agress (red box not yellow) you outside of your drone control range, the drones will not engage until you tell them to. This is normally not an issue, just when you are being jammed. Consider moving out of guristas space if it bothers you too much.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Civ Kado
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2015-05-16 18:46:40 UTC
Erik Sokarad wrote:
if the drones are out before you are shot, they respond. if the drones get launched after you are shot, they will wait until either a new hostile shoots you, or until you give them an order to engage. this is a bit counter-intuitive, but it is the behavior i have observed.

this has also been my experience
Zed Melnibone
Nightshade Holdings
Nightshade Alliance
#7 - 2015-05-17 03:04:19 UTC
PSA: I found the problem. I had to upgrade a few times the Drones Avionics in order to have them connected far enough to attack enemies that are not next to me. Posting it here so that new ppl find a solution instead of losing an afternoon like me.
Karak Bol
Low-Sec Survival Ltd.
#8 - 2015-05-17 07:33:38 UTC
Btw.: Easiest solution is leaving Caldari Space. Eliminates jamming rats and reduces number of suicide ganker.
Newt BlackCompany
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2015-05-19 07:24:08 UTC
Note: having drones set to 'aggressive' in hisec is dangerous.

A classic tactic is, if you have an mtu deployed, that a ganker in a proper pvp ship will attack it. The 'auto aggress' drones then attack the ganker, and then he is allowed to attack you without getting concorded.

There might be other ways to exploit 'auto aggress' drones in this way. Better to target and operate them manually.
afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2015-05-19 07:27:34 UTC
Newt BlackCompany wrote:
Note: having drones set to 'aggressive' in hisec is dangerous.

A classic tactic is, if you have an mtu deployed, that a ganker in a proper pvp ship will attack it. The 'auto aggress' drones then attack the ganker, and then he is allowed to attack you without getting concorded.

There might be other ways to exploit 'auto aggress' drones in this way. Better to target and operate them manually.



They patched that out a while ago.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#11 - 2015-05-19 12:37:32 UTC
afkalt wrote:
Newt BlackCompany wrote:
Note: having drones set to 'aggressive' in hisec is dangerous.

A classic tactic is, if you have an mtu deployed, that a ganker in a proper pvp ship will attack it. The 'auto aggress' drones then attack the ganker, and then he is allowed to attack you without getting concorded.

There might be other ways to exploit 'auto aggress' drones in this way. Better to target and operate them manually.



They patched that out a while ago.

This is, in fact the reason drones no longer actually behave in a sensible way.

Rather than telling the carebear mission runners to set their drones to passive CCP just lobotomized the drone AI. Once again the carebears get to have their cake and eat it too at the expense of everyone else.