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Getting a suggestion passed.

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Mr Thicke
Black Market Imperium
#1 - 2015-05-18 14:50:01 UTC
How is this actually done?

i have seen a lot of ideas on the forum that get a lot of attention but hardly any approval from higher powers.

What is the process that a person has to go through and how are they made aware when an idea is actually being considered by CCP?
Elizabeth Norn
Nornir Research
Nornir Empire
#2 - 2015-05-18 14:51:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Elizabeth Norn
EVE isn't designed by a player committee. There's a forum to post your suggestions, "Features & Ideas Discussion".

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Hal Morsh
Doomheim
#3 - 2015-05-18 14:54:18 UTC
Mr Thicke wrote:
How is this actually done?

i have seen a lot of ideas on the forum that get a lot of attention but hardly any approval from higher powers.

What is the process that a person has to go through and how are they made aware when an idea is actually being considered by CCP?




Post in ideas and suggestions

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=270

CCP reads there and takes player's opinions into account.

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Mr Thicke
Black Market Imperium
#4 - 2015-05-18 14:56:34 UTC
no, im saying, how long does it have to be there and how would you know if it is passed?

is it based on likes, views, dev attention, like what?
Jenshae Chiroptera
#5 - 2015-05-18 15:06:59 UTC
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Getting a suggestion passed.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#6 - 2015-05-18 15:22:39 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
Mr Thicke wrote:
no, im saying, how long does it have to be there and how would you know if it is passed?

is it based on likes, views, dev attention, like what?

None of the above.

All of the above.

The DEVs wisely stay out of most discussion threads, prefering instead to let the players dicuss (and often rip apart) ideas to see as many possibilities and facets of the subject at hand.
After all, who better to spot the problems with an idea than the players who will be using and abusing it?

But then again, if the devs REALLY like an idea the they can cherry pick what they like and reform it as best they can.

Of course, then there are the feedback threads where the devs put down an idea and let the players hash it out. But even then, they take care not to talk too much to lest they contaminate the discussion.

How did you Veterans start?
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#7 - 2015-05-18 15:25:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Eve Solecist
You create properly written threads ...
... at the right point in time ...
... and if done right people will come and approve.


Hahahahaha good luck with that.
You can hire me though. (:
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Dersen Lowery
The Scope
#8 - 2015-05-18 15:27:42 UTC
Mr Thicke wrote:
no, im saying, how long does it have to be there and how would you know if it is passed?

is it based on likes, views, dev attention, like what?


It's based on whether players seem to like it, the devs like it, and it seems feasible.

Some sort of dev response to your request is a good sign, but there's no standard procedure and no guarantee of anything. You put in your effort, post it up and hope for the best. Generally, CCP hopes that the other forum-goers will poke and prod at any request until it either falls apart or holds up, possibly with revisions, before they take it under consideration.

You can also alert a CSM member to your thread; if they like the idea, they can also bring it to CCP--though again, there are no guarantees.

Suggestions that have clearly been thought through have a much better shot than "CCP should do X."

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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#9 - 2015-05-18 15:28:52 UTC
Mr Thicke wrote:
no, im saying, how long does it have to be there and how would you know if it is passed?

is it based on likes, views, dev attention, like what?


There is no process. You'll know if it was a good idea if it gets implemented or talked about in a devblog.

If you're serious, put up a well-written post in the features and ideas section, support your idea with some reasons it would be good for the game, and maybe it'll get some traction or the devs will notice.

Something tells me your idea is going to get lost in the morass though, and that it will get the attention it deserves.

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DaReaper
Net 7
Cannon.Fodder
#10 - 2015-05-18 19:37:53 UTC
I have had a comet mining thread for over a year, has some support from players, and was an old idea that almost came into being. Yet nothing.

The modualr pos thread, which was something like 8 years old, with tons of support was ignored too. So to answer your question, there is no way to know. CCP is a dictatorship. they chose what to add. its thats simple. post your idea and wait. maybe you will get lucky.

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Stacy Lone
Nirakura Inc
Decisions of Truth
#11 - 2015-05-18 19:45:03 UTC
Mr Thicke wrote:
how would you know if it is passed?


You know ehen the dev blog about it is out or it is in the patch notes. Or you simply see it in the game at some point.


There is no formal process that you can go through to make CCP implement what you want. You might be able to get the CSM aboard and have them push for it, but that isn't a guarantee either. Simply offer good, constructive ideas and wait.
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#12 - 2015-05-18 19:50:22 UTC
Pander to CCL.

I mean, make gud posts that are well thought out and if it gets a ton of support we'll happily forward it to the appropriate party.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

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The Troll Bridge
#13 - 2015-05-18 19:50:28 UTC
Post thoughtful, non-self-serving, well reasoned, balanced idea in Features & Ideas subforum.

Garner support for your idea.

Listen to others commentary/criticism and modify idea appropriately.

Garner more support for your idea.

Good idea catches attention of Dev.

Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
#14 - 2015-05-18 21:11:43 UTC
Mr Thicke wrote:
is it based on likes, views, dev attention, like what?

All of them:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1455239#post1455239

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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#15 - 2015-05-18 23:08:04 UTC
Mara Pahrdi wrote:
Mr Thicke wrote:
is it based on likes, views, dev attention, like what?

All of them:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1455239#post1455239

It's really interesting seeing people, who never ever achieved what the OP is talking about ...
... believe they can tell others how it is being done.

Without proof as well.


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BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
#16 - 2015-05-19 15:29:23 UTC  |  Edited by: BoBoZoBo
Mr Thicke wrote:
how would you know if it is passed?



When you see it in game.

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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#17 - 2015-05-19 16:45:05 UTC
BoBoZoBo wrote:
Mr Thicke wrote:
how would you know if it is passed?



When you see it in game.

It really makes me wonder how hard he tried answering his own questions.
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Rowells
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#18 - 2015-05-19 17:09:42 UTC
they don't all get passed. In fact a lot don't, like 99% i would guess. This isnt suprising of a brainstorming board, it's hpw the process works.
Random Bacon
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2015-05-19 18:15:22 UTC
Start thread in Ideas subforum.
Leave for 2 weeks.
Consider ethnicity, are you Amarr?
Send EVE Mail to CSM member that stood with your area for suggestion in their 'mandate'
Read response.
Defect to Amarr.

enjoy goodfights
Lux Jinks
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2015-05-19 18:46:02 UTC


email ccp. im sure your idea will get implemented asap.
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