Player Features and Ideas Discussion

We actually have organisations out there without military that practically own everything and win at life, they're called central banks for future reference.

OK I'll bite.

1) You have a high sec pos in a system that another corp would like to place a pos. How many ships would it take to suicide-gank your pos? Unless you commit some "crime" your pos is now immune to any assault for any practicle purpose. NO thanks.

2) You are trading in a system where someone else would like to try their hand at cornering the market. Market PvP is one way, but war-deccing is another way to try and convince you to move. Add in some suicide ganking of the haulers that drop into an NPC corp and some people will just up and move. Again, not viable under your idea.

3) Your miners keep mining out the belts...War-dec+suicide ganks to get you to go away.

4) You and/ or your corpmates are loud-mouth smack-tards in local > wardec incoming for your idiocy. Under this proposal petitions are the only recourse, adding to GM workload and taking away from one of the most fundamental, and for me at least, interesting aspects of EvE.....Actions have Consequences.

Do you really want a system where the only recourse for those that may have a reason to want to attack you is suicide ganks? Would you then support measures to make high-sec suicide ganking easier to allow for the fact that it now the only way to pursue any of several legitimate reasons for war-deccing someone?

I've been trying to tell the idiot of an OP this for a good 2 pages now. They don't seem to get it.

Presumably it's fun for them. Not quite my thing either but hey, if they enjoy it good for them.

You really have no idea how to handle a wardec =/ no wonder you're whining.

Gotta chime in again. This is why I think we need something other than our two current options of NPC corp vs Player Corp. Granted, to make real ISK in the game requires risk. Whether thats a mega-miner group hiding in an NPC corp but vulnerable to Hulkageddon or a Player Corp owning a POS- both require significant risk to make significant ISK. Perfectly understood that suicide-ganks and war decs are a reasonable means towards leveling the player field. Got it.

Now, newbies and/or casual players. Some are learning, and some play for the fun. If they a form Corps for learning (such as EVE University) or social groups, they are unfortunately vulnerable to war decs (and of course always vulnerable to suicide-ganks, but that's a fact of life in EVE). Let's make a Corp-"lite". Maybe a shared wallet. Shared hangar space. Email address list. Chat channel (as Duchess points out, you can do the latter one now). No POSes. No claiming space. No wardecs.

Advantages- "carebear" & newbie haven, without an invulnerable ISK machine. Continue to suicide-gank mega-miners, but allow folks that just want to play in peace or learn the game do so in a "relatively" safe environment (suicide-ganks still possible). Learning corps provide support to their newbies, and train them to eventually join a real Corp should they so wish in the future.

These Corp-"lite" entities would exist as subsidiaries to NPC corps. Meaning, the players run them, but they are owned by NPC corps. That means the 11% tax rate is still in effect. The Subsidiaries CEO can up the tax rate (kinda like a State Tax on top of the Federal Income Tax).

Results- 1.) Safety for newbies and carebears. 2.) Wardec system remains unchanged. 3.) No massive exploitation by mega-miners (they could be in a subsidiary as well, but are still vulnerable to Hulkageddons and similar). 4.) No competition for sovereignty or POS space.

Newbies are worthless scum. If they aren't determined and hardcore enough to survive in the tank then death or quiting awaits them. Industrialist without combat skills have no place either. They can exist but they do so at their own risk. No safety from wardecs, it should be made worse to be honest instead of the current bullshit system of avoidance and you should be forced to hire or form a defensive force or be shutdown. 3 pages nor 30 pages of whining for a change that isn't ever going to come is a waste of time. We don't misunderstand your point, we just don't like it, want it, endorse it or give a **** about it.

EVE is real and the typical thought of more subscriptions at the expense of the visceral nature of the game isn't how our community rolls. HTFU & adapt or GTFO.

Have a nice day.

The only scum here is you are. You should pick up words carefully and read the topic better before you reply.

Good day to you at school.