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I'm in two minds here. Sure, the Dread (and Super) is forced in to a very thin niche if structure grinding goes away (that of Titan and Super ambusher, but what Titans and Supers will be around to ambush if they don't have structures to shoot), but that is only if Capitals go unchanged for the forseeable future.

To my mind, the entire capital game is currently balanced around structures; Dreads and Supers need high damage to blast through stations, so Titans and Supers need massive hp pools and Carriers and Supers massive repping power, in order to contend with the high dps of the structure grinders. With no structures to grind, this no longer becomes a ruling factor in the balance of capital ships, and they become free to be balanced entirely as pvp platforms. I don't know about you, but that is kind of exciting to me. Without stations to shoot, Dread and Super dps can be scaled well down, and be made more applyable to (at least the larger) subcaps, while capital hp can be slashed to make them more killable. To me, those sound like only good things.

Not at all. Start using them now. They will pay off until being disabled. If they don't pay off untill then, don't use them.

What makes you think you will be able to take them down after a war is declared in highsec? My guess is that this loophole will be closed and you will have to defend these structures from attackers if you want to keep them. That is a much better design to stimulate conflict and facilitate sandbox play rather than continuing to allow corps to evade conflict by just taking down the structure.

But in highsec and elsewhere, they will not "go poof any day". They will be protected by a vulnerability window for most of the day, and require multiple reinforcements giving you plenty of time to show up and defend. And even if you still can't for some reason, it seems that all (or perhaps most) of your stuff will be retrievable, meaning you are only out the cost of the structure.

If you can't manage that, then stick to the still-available NPC structures where you don't have to worry about defending at all.

I'm thinking you should be able to take them down but it should take longer than 24 hours. That way if you are away from the game for holiday/work/whatever you can pack up for a short while but you can't just take it down in the 24 hour grace period before war. This would be explained as the graceful shutdown period for all those tower systems etc.

With a small POS, you can anchor more than can be online at once, and bring different modules on and off line as you need.

For example:

Online a lab to do some TE/ME, then offline it, online another lab for copying, then offline it - online the equipment and ammo assembly arrays to build something, or put the reprocessing array online while you are mining.

Will we still be able to do something similar with a medium citadel?

My understanding is that the modules will be like ship equipment. You may switch modules like any ship equipment. Only rigs will be destroyed by removal.

Rather than having structures clog space with a swarm of regular drones consider

(1) limiting to 10 drones even for XL structures.
(2) slap on huge drone augmentation effects like control range = +100km per structure size
and radically increased speed (x3-x5 depending on size), agility, weapon tracking (x5), weapon range (X5),
weapon damage (x3) and durability effects (structure x1.5, armor x2, shields x5)
(3) total "instant" remote repair when passing within 1 radius of structure
(instant being faster for larger structures but no longer than 6 seconds for the smallest)
(4) web immunity within given radius of structure
(5) ?micro jump/warp within control radius once every 30 seconds?

This will make regular drones ideal for killing small relatively fast ships even in high sec. The tracking effects from the increased speed of drones will make them significantly harder to kill for small squads of ships.


Probably should be some limited AI to launch and swap the most effective drones (damage types & net pursuit speed) for the current top priority hostiles from the stores of drones remaining. Though there might also need to be a drone reserve store that can only be launched manually to keep a specialist team of SBs and T3 from killing all your Geckos while the station is unattended. Similarly there might be separate drone stores for invulnerability and reinforcement times when its mainly about harassing spies and siphon deployment rather than serious defense.

I have not yet seen the most important question being asked or answered yet!

Walking in these new structures! Can we and how much of it?

Irony impaired? Come on Sheldon!

LOL - funny. Yeah it occurred to me that now would be a "good time" for CCP to slip new station walking areas into EVE without fanfare.


I mean there is a REAL question of whether every structure which has internal docking will at least get Captain's Quarters. Definitely not a question critical to gameplay but it is there. If they do then maybe then maybe those quarters will be customized a little to the size and race of structure like we have the 4 racial CQ now.

Once you open that can of worms then you can ask about adding very simple rooms to be associated with each public service module. I assume CCP kept good notes on all the FUBAR issues they solved when creating the CQs. If so, simple public rooms would mainly be artwork and associated walk models. So primarily an issue of whether CCP artwork teams have spare time. Coding functions could just be hanging GUI click on NPC or vending machine to go to current popup windows.


But I recommend avoid multiplayer stationwalking interaction off the table in the name of life support. If CCP wants a frivolous feature challenge - try adding video convo screens to private chat when in CQ. One on one private convo video chat screen with emotes in CQ would be place to start. Then maybe work up to split screen and multiple players.


Definitely no call for complex issues of real windows on local space or user defined businesses & nightclubs or huge promenades or other multiple player shared interaction spaces on smaller structures. MULTIPLAYER station-walking being the real killer box of unsolved SNAFUs waiting to happen. If Multiplayer station-walking ever happens I guarantee that there will not only be be issues with basic interactions but several levels of "Jita like" congestion solving.

Smaller structures would however yield a logical reason to cap occupancy of public rooms at very low levels (say 4 players) and use cloned instances of public rooms as a forced way to handle player overflow -- all in the name of station life support. Leave mass melee battle on stations to the far far future or maybe another game.