Missions & Complexes

BCU II's only require Weapon Upgrades IV, so there's no reason to go with that many CN BCUs. Especially since Weapons Upgrades reduces the CPU costs of turrets and launchers and CPU is always in short supply on Caldari hulls.


BCU == BCS, i.e. ballistic control unit versus ballistic control system. It's an old people thing.

Lot of topics to cover . . .

CCC's on a Raven, in L4's, are just a NO, they should not be used. You need to use rigs, rigors, to apply damage to anything smaller than a BS, to reduce the exp. rad. of those missiles. Pulsing the SB will work just fine, unless you have low sp, but that is what the cap booster is for. If you need to run the SB for a long time, the booster will keep your cap up. It may also help you to GTFO if the incoming is over whelming you.

The MJD may be helpful sometimes. If you get into trouble, you point and click, and your 100km away. That mostly could put you out of targeting range, but the other BSs can still hit you. So you may have only delayed the inevitable.

Please do not passive tank a Raven. It's shield has a high recharge rate. Again, you're using shots that should be used to help generate dps, and apply it. With that above fit, there is only about 110 hp/s, which won't last very long.

Even though auto-targeting missiles can hit out to about 220km, they only give 500dps, 3465 volley. Missions would be very, very slow. You could do the same, maybe better, in a Drake. If you go AFK, you most like will come back looking at your pod.

4 Caldari BCUs, with Fury, for me, gives 1003dps, 8230 volley.
3 Caldari BCUs, with Fury, for me, gives 940dps, 7948 volley.
4 BCU II, with Fury, for me, gives 942dps, 7730 volley.
3 Caldari BCUs, and 1 BCU II, with Fury, for me, gives 996dps, 8173 volley. (I see the logic in that.)

That 4th BCU is almost like having a 7% implant.

Best medicine is to try different things, if you don't want to go by something that's already proven itself over time. You will quickly learn what works and what doesn't.

-Kirst

[Raven, Raven]

6x 'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I (Scourge Cruise Missile)

X-Large Shield Booster II
2x Kinetic Deflection Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Large Micro Jump Drive
Sensor Booster II (Targeting Range Script)

Damage Control II
Power Diagnostic System II
3x Ballistic Control System II

3x Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

1x Mobile Tractor Unit


My alt flies this but I hate Ravens anyways. At roughly 220m, it is somewhat affordable but of course L4 loot suck badly.

Don't CCC it and don't MJD it. Tank it and leave 1 mid for your pointer.

Read Eve Survival and use PYFA or EFT and have exactly the right resistances for each mission you fly. Know your triggers and keep incoming DPS down.

my 2c - I read once on one of the fit website: 'if you cant make you shield boosting cap stable, then dont bother'. trying to make XL shield booster cap stable is insane. get rid of CCC rigs, you need better damage application with cruise missiles.

Indeed the more spank you have, the less tank you need. Dead things deal no damage.

Assuming you're just getting started doing L4's and/or don't quite have the ability to fit Tech II Cruise Launchers, here is the fit. Also, upgrade to Tech II Cruise Launchers ASAP.

[Raven, Lvl 4 Raven]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

X-Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Phased Weapon Navigation Array Generation Extron
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Mission-Specific Hardener
Mission-Specific Hardener

'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
'Arbalest' Cruise Launcher I
Drone Link Augmenter II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

Mission-Specific Drones (Use Caldari or Gallente drones if all else fails)

Someone posting about a Raven fit for L4's is very likely a new player, so all the flippant "this is simple" nonsense can be stowed.

That said, MJD... agreed, don't need it. No prop mod, bad idea. Sure you can hit out to obscene ranges, but you're not going to warp in at 90+ every time. Rats will get in close long before your fat cow Raven opens up range. The whole "you don't even need to move" thing is just stupid.

In essence, your post misses the point.

Cruise missiles apply passably well, have good sustained dps, excellent alpha, and awesome range. Rigor rigs will greatly help your application vs smaller ships without having to worry about your drones getting blapped all the time. You really only need the drones for frigates that get into close range or to help kill a hostile that tackles you.

If you're going to run an XL booster, you need a cap booster to keep it running for long enough to tank missions like Angel Extravaganza bonus room. W/o the cap booster, your cap will be empty in less than 2 minutes of continuous shield booster use. This is insufficient to tank at close range for the duration of your MJD cooldown should it become necessary to do so.

Most rats can't hit anything out past 50km. Certain LR rats are a bit better. But none of them have the kind of range cruise missiles get (>200km). Do not ever fit range rigs on a cruise missile fit. plz. All you need is a sebo and a MJD. MJD out. Commence to shooting rats. When they get close, MJD again.

Start with this fit:
[Raven, cruise pve]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II
Co-Processor II

X-Large Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 800
Large Micro Jump Drive
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Cruise Missile
[empty high slot]

Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Cap Booster 800 x16
Scourge Precision Cruise Missile x1500
Scourge Fury Cruise Missile x1500


You can drop either the invuln fld for a sebo, or the DC for a signal amplifier to get more locking range. I recommend the DC>SigAmp. Invulnerability field gives you farm better shield resists than the DC, which makes your local reps more effective. Train your missile support skills. Dead things deal no damage. Fit hardeners, ammo, and drones as required for the mission rats. The MJD not only repositions you away from the rats, but is also a get out of jail free card for gankers (unless they have a scram).

Plz don't fit Pith X-type deadspace mods to a friggin' Raven for cripes sake. It'll just make you a gank target, cost more than the entire ship, require months to pay off, and give you absolutely zero increase in isk efficiency. But if you are short on CPU still, I suggest Caldari Navy hardeners. Those are fairly cheap, give the same or better resists (I forget exactly) and use a lot less CPU than T2. They are worth the investment. The rest of your mids and highs can be downgraded to meta for additional fitting resource savings.

And for missions, I recommend using T1 ammo. But carry some faction and precision just in case.

If you're fitting a MWD/AB over a MJD, the assumption is you can take the level 4 to the face without blinking. A MJD has 2 main uses in missions:
1) Go light on tank for max spank
2) For those who are paranoid about losing their ship a MJD will work against rat's point, allowing you to jump 100 km away and warp out.