Intergalactic Summit

I agree with this.

I don't think Kale is a delegate...

Because, even if it fails, it's a path worthy of attempt. This is how alliances are made (and broken) and if enough people stand together for a cause those that have the power to effect the change are going to be pressured to do so.

This has been answered multiple times in this very thread of discussion already. If you do not understand the difference by this point then you are either willfully ignoring it or simply unable to grasp it.

Also, for the record, it is vastly more egotistical to demand that the conference live up to your expectations in order for it to be classified as "important" in your view than it is to create and participate in such a conference in the hopes that something productive may come of it.

Frankly, if we were concerned about your opinion on the matter, we'd have asked for it.

We didn't because we don't.

You misunderstand me, monsieur.

I didn't say the conference was not concerned with others' opinions on the matter, I said it wasn't concerned with yours.

The answer has been provided, more than once actually but apparently not to your satisfaction, which isn't something we're going to try to rectify. If you aren't satisfied with the purpose and proceedings of the conference, don't participate. It's really not complicated and has nothing to do with being ego-driven and everything to do with having more productive things to worry about than justifying ourselves to you.

Mr. Auscent, this is still a more cohesive, comprehensive attempt to build bridges between the various states than any I've seen in some years. While this surely won't change the times we live in, it's still a noble effort. As one of my employees is attending as a State Liberal delegate, I look forward to hearing how this conference proceeds.

Best of luck to the attendees.

Okay, so the points you have here make a great deal of sense from a certain perspective - that of us actually fixing the problems besetting the Empires - but that's not what this conference is for and you don't get that. That's fine, half of the bloody delegates don't get it either, and proposed the creation of taskforces to combat this, that and the other spectre. Which is why we had to have a recap today to make sure that the commissions we did create are actually on point and are not threatening to create fleets that we can't build, mobilise armies we can't control or spend money that we don't bloody well have.

Thankfully today was the day that a Delegate from the Sanity Coalition came to the conference and we have purged the balance of that crap from the commission lists.

So let me tell you why your talk of bringing major millitia alliances and nullsec empires to the table is illfounded.

First of all, I represent a major militia alliance. Look at the 24th IC list of top contributors and you'll find my mob there, grinning out at you. With my background in the Caldari and Amarrian militias I can tell you, without a doubt, that the people fighting for ideological causes are a tiny minority. Sorry for the bruised egos, thou good and faithful servants, but you know as well as I do that there is a reason the militias are opened to mercenary outfits, and that mercenaries, privateers, freebooters and... let's be honest... out and out opportunistic pirates... provide the largest and most successful forces.

They fight for the money. The Empires could end the militia wars within a month, anytime they chose, and the way to do that would be to increase the security rating of those systems and STOP PAYING THE MERCENARIES. I guarantee that it would get very quiet, very quickly. TL&DR? The Empires don't need to consult with capsuleers to end the wars in lowsec. They need to come to terms and tell us that the Isk fountain is dry. End of line.

As for the nullsec warchiefs? Well, the conference is about bringing peace to the Empires - the nullsec alliances are irrelevant in this matter. Frankly that's a good thing, the only thing that unifies nullseccers is other unified nullseccers looking to eat their lunches.


As for your charge of the conference being ego-driven? Maybe it was at the start - but most of the nasty egos are gone now. Grandstanding and showboating doesn't work at the sort of conference we've got going because participating takes time and work. It's not exciting. It's dull, quite frankly.

So - what IS the conference if it ISN'T all the things above? It's a bunch of Capsuleers who actually care about their mother factions. We were, for the most part, raised in it. Most of us there love it to some extent and we want to protect it. And our glorious homes have issues with the neighbours that are seriously causing strife. Gallente and Caldari. Matari and Amarr. Most of us have killed other people for nothing more than an accent or a patch on an arm or for flying a certain transponder signal. Some of us are just disgusted with people who've done that and are looking for another way.

It's not about telling anybody what to do. It's about highlighting a list of sore points and asking the other side "What do you need to stop being angry about this? What would make this go away for you?" and maybe it would work better if each delegation was a million people from each faction. And maybe it would work better if our governments had gotten up off their entrenched asses and supported this - but the one thing capsuleers are is hard to ignore. We're going to talk through these issues and we're going to present our findings - and baseliners are going to read them. Maybe that means politicians, executives, bishops and elders are going to have read them, think about them and refute them.

We aren't going to solve anything. Probably not. The issues are complicated and the Caldari bloc is, what, three or four capsuleers? The Matari bloc is about the same. The Gallente bloc, again, not much bigger. The Amarr bloc is maybe double the size and it feels like half of the Independent Delegates from the other factions are mostly here to make sure we don't gang up on them. It's a beginning.

Maybe next time we'll have more delegates. Maybe next time there will be real diplomats with the power to negotiate involved. Maybe next time we'll have the science of running something like this down better - but I'll tell you one thing. Somebody was scared enough of this conference to assassinate Doctor Sarain and, like any good hound, I love the stink of fear. It tells me where the weakness is hiding. It provides a good point of attack.

Inquiring minds must know. Without speaking ill of any delegate, which delegates would you stay stand out at this point as productive and cooperative attendees?

As a multi-factional alliance, we have already found reasons to work together outside the usual bickering across borders, and we're watchful of progress or lack thereof.

Some of us are also mercenaries who have fought alongside the militias of all 4 factions.

Still ... we think people are capable of something better, so I am here at the Pakhshi Peace Conference.

Heheh.
I feel like I have to make a minor correction, in order to not have myself or other "sane" delegates feel insulted:
That day was the day that that Delegate was able to convince a majority on the sanity of her objections. Most of the "crap" you refer to initially passed with only a small majority, 5-4.