EVE New Citizens Q&A

One thing that's not mentioned here is that (almost) everything in EVE is negotiable. People can ask you for a lot of things, but it doesn't mean you have to give it to them to get something yourself.

since having a criminal background is not supposed to be something you can legally use to discriminate in most jobs, probably not.

That may be true in your country, but not in mine. I have had several jobs you can not have with a criminal containing certain convictions.

None needed as it was my error in reading the information on CCP's web site. Apologies to all for the inaccuracy of my statement.


If a corp wants an API key I have no trouble with them asking, the player always has the option to refuse and not join.

As is oft the case this topic has lost sight of the original question "why are so many new bros horrified to give their api key".
I am a veteran player and as pointed out by BeBopAReBop above even I did not fully understand the limits of the API key system.
IF a vet player is not fully aware of the API system then it is very likely that "new bros" do not understand it either and that misunderstanding is likely to be the most common factor in a new players refusal to give out API key information.

The letter I mentioned would not take more than 10 to 15 minutes at max to write and once written would only need to be updated on an as needed basis. Sending this letter out prior to or at the same time as the request for API key information serves the applicant, the recruiter and his corp equally. The applicant has been educated on the limits of the API key and so may be less likely to refuse to provide it and the recruiter benefits in that they may have less hassles getting the information they require to process the application. It seems to me that this little bit of extra effort presents a win - win situation for applicant and corp as well as going along way to eliminating the situations that brought about this topic to start with.

And I still stand by my statement. If a recruiter is not willing to make the extra effort to educate applicants on the limits of the API system and why they need/want that information then they are lazy and probably should not be dealing with new player applications to their corp.

some places credit check you for a job, imagine that being credit checked to go get a job to pay debts

Your perspective is wrong.

APIcentric. lol

The first mistake is that you don't see the issue with us having to rely on external stuff ...
... to socialise with other players ingame. That's just nuts, tbh. :)

The second is that you ignore how you are limiting us to private conversations ...
... which can't be had when one is logged out. Mails work, though.

Again, the barrier to socialisation.

Why am I locked out of corporations, for having close connections to people ?

That's nuts !

yes op, give us your API since it means nothing.

Not all of us like big brother looking over our shoulders and giving out a full api key puts you at more risk then you know.

First of all, full api keys does not stop awoxing. A simple killboard check takes care of that. Making friendly fire illegal makes punishing awoxers by losing their ship atleast. it's a deterrent and nothing more.

Wallet checks and market order give you unprecedented look into my finances. Why do you need to know how much isk I have and what/Where I am buying and selling. to prevent theft of Corp assets? My friend have you heard of the trade function? No logs or footprint from taking the item from the hangar to trading with an alt on another account. On the other hand you just provided somebody with the knowledge to wage economic warfare on you Or a clue into your dirty trade secrets.

location and ship? That's already part of the corp ui.

Etc. Etc. Etc.

The ONLY part of the api key that a Corp could justify is skIlls. Knowing what you can fly and if necessary that you are training into what the Corp needs or expects from you. Everything else, I'd love to see a solid point on why it's necessary. And by solid I mean not easily countered by deleting mail, trading items off to another account, etc.

I too do not understand why someone wouldn't want to give you access to large quantities of continuously updated private information.

Possibly it is because people aren't interested in having somebody being able to read every mail they ever send? Or perhaps they don't particularly care for people to constantly monitor every market transaction they make?

Even if you don't intend to do those things at all, by asking for a non-expiring API with every box ticked you're asking someone to allow you to do all of those things and to e able to do so indefinitely.

For some inexplicable reason some people actually like privacy. You'd do well to only gather information you actually need.