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Business Opportunity - Looking to buy ships in bulks

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Syna Anima
SYNDAX CORPORATION
Lord of Worlds Alliance
#1 - 2015-05-16 11:21:03 UTC
Hi there,

I am looking for reliable industrial corps that can build and sell sub-cap ships in bulks.

I want to buy in bulks of 1-2 bil, from t1 to t2/t3. I will place several orders/month depending on demand.

If you are interested to sell your stuff and not do market PVP in the regular hubs, this is it.

My price is 5% under Jita buy orders with delivery in Amarr. I know this still brings a profit to all parties involved and the volume is quite significant.

I am looking for reliable business partners, if you are interested then mail me in game for orders.

Thanks!

/Syna Anima

Capsups
Atomic Mangocorp
#2 - 2015-05-17 08:56:00 UTC
I don't understand. You're offering a price below the buy orders in jita and STILL want them delivered in another hub? Why would I want to sell you my ships at below jita buy prices when I can just sell directly to jita buy orders and get more for my ships and then I don't even have to move them to Amarr either?
Syna Anima
SYNDAX CORPORATION
Lord of Worlds Alliance
#3 - 2015-05-17 10:20:35 UTC
Capsups wrote:
I don't understand. You're offering a price below the buy orders in jita and STILL want them delivered in another hub? Why would I want to sell you my ships at below jita buy prices when I can just sell directly to jita buy orders and get more for my ships and then I don't even have to move them to Amarr either?


If you sell 1-5 ships, then yes go to Jita, case close, but if you have 50?

The delivery is quite irrelevant, Amarr would be nice, but I am open to other places, not that important tbh. We can see what serves both parties best.

I am looking for industrial corps that don't want to bother with market orders, a 5% discount to sell ships worth several billions on the spot is a fair deal.

I was quite open in my OP, I know there is profit to be made even at those prices, it's not the first time I work like this.

It's much better to create partnerships and work together than use the hubs and waste time in market PVP. There is value beyond ISK in such partnerships.
Selaria Unbertable
Bellator in Capsulam
#4 - 2015-05-17 10:38:49 UTC
Syna Anima wrote:
Capsups wrote:
I don't understand. You're offering a price below the buy orders in jita and STILL want them delivered in another hub? Why would I want to sell you my ships at below jita buy prices when I can just sell directly to jita buy orders and get more for my ships and then I don't even have to move them to Amarr either?


If you sell 1-5 ships, then yes go to Jita, case close, but if you have 50?

The delivery is quite irrelevant, Amarr would be nice, but I am open to other places, not that important tbh. We can see what serves both parties best.

I am looking for industrial corps that don't want to bother with market orders, a 5% discount to sell ships worth several billions on the spot is a fair deal.

I was quite open in my OP, I know there is profit to be made even at those prices, it's not the first time I work like this.

It's much better to create partnerships and work together than use the hubs and waste time in market PVP. There is value beyond ISK in such partnerships.


The problem with your offer, from my perspective, is you want to buy for 5% below Jita buy orders... And those prices are so low, that they barely cover the production costs for most ships, esp. larger ones. When I build things, I usually put up sell orders to get the maximum possible profit, and I don't bother if it takes a week for the order to be fulfilled.
Jhousetlin Zamayid
#5 - 2015-05-17 10:52:14 UTC
Jita buy orders = below production cost to begin with....
Syna Anima
SYNDAX CORPORATION
Lord of Worlds Alliance
#6 - 2015-05-17 12:09:16 UTC
I see. Thou I know it's possible to sell under Jita, I just want to scout for additional business partners beyond my current contacts.

In any case, I am interested if anyone would sell at Jita buy orders? I don't mind starting with Jita buy orders until we get going.
Load Mebo
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#7 - 2015-05-17 14:15:03 UTC
Jhousetlin Zamayid wrote:
Jita buy orders = below production cost to begin with....


Often even Jita sell orders are below production cost....
GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#8 - 2015-05-17 17:50:37 UTC  |  Edited by: GankYou
Load Mebo wrote:
Jhousetlin Zamayid wrote:
Jita buy orders = below production cost to begin with....


Often even Jita sell orders are below production cost....


Most of the time happens to products which have been Tiericide'd™.

Recent examples is Tech 3 Destroyers, most Battleship and Battlecruiser hulls in 2013, then again in last month, 2015 along with most other Tech 1 ships and modules, some of which have already recovered.

P. S. Jita is a crowded, sweaty place.
SJ Astralana
Syncore
#9 - 2015-05-17 23:48:09 UTC
You're high. Most non-teiracided battleships sell at under 5% margin.

Hyperdrive your production business: Eve Production Manager

GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#10 - 2015-05-18 08:51:19 UTC
Reading comprehension. Pls.

The whole of Tech 1 has been "Tiericided" three weeks ago. Roll
Syna Anima
SYNDAX CORPORATION
Lord of Worlds Alliance
#11 - 2015-05-18 20:35:24 UTC
Just wanted to say thank you for the offers and contacts I've received so far.

Contrary to what some posters above say there are people in EVE willing to do business and value working together more than market profits. It's not always just about the ISK.

I am still looking for t2/t3 producers to start business partnerships. Terms are the same. Looking forward to your emails!
Haatakan Reppola
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-05-18 21:45:08 UTC
Syna Anima wrote:
Just wanted to say thank you for the offers and contacts I've received so far.

Contrary to what some posters above say there are people in EVE willing to do business and value working together more than market profits. It's not always just about the ISK.

I am still looking for t2/t3 producers to start business partnerships. Terms are the same. Looking forward to your emails!


If its not about profits, why dont you pay jita buy value when even sell value is a loss compared to minerals needed to manufactuer the ships?
Thats right, its all about YOUR profits :P
Syna Anima
SYNDAX CORPORATION
Lord of Worlds Alliance
#13 - 2015-05-19 09:42:16 UTC
Haatakan Reppola wrote:
Syna Anima wrote:
Just wanted to say thank you for the offers and contacts I've received so far.

Contrary to what some posters above say there are people in EVE willing to do business and value working together more than market profits. It's not always just about the ISK.

I am still looking for t2/t3 producers to start business partnerships. Terms are the same. Looking forward to your emails!


If its not about profits, why dont you pay jita buy value when even sell value is a loss compared to minerals needed to manufactuer the ships?
Thats right, its all about YOUR profits :P


TLDR: It's never easy with you guys. Stop trying to find reasons why this is not possible, because it is, so don't bother.

You do not know where I sell, there are places in EVE where people like to help each other, and sometimes that translates to prices under Jita! I can't buy in Jita and sell since that wont make it any better, anyone can do it. I want to make it worthwhile for me and for the end user = under Jita prices and still profitable for all.

But you can define profit as you like... if I were only after the money I would simply buy in Jita and sell 2x times in other places where I know people don't bother to even check prices, I am passed that. I am a trader, I know the business very well. I don't do station games and I avoid hubs. I like to play this game by interacting with people and if that also brings some ISK, wonderful.

I am surprised to see people so focused ONLY on profit, but I am happy to see others share my thoughts and like to make their game more personal, buying in hubs is so impersonal it's sad. I'd rather give my ISK to a real person and build a business partnership, I value that more.

I know there are others like me, so that is why I made this thread and I already got orders ongoing! So props to that.

What I find curious is that all the posts in this thread are negative to my proposal, while on private I get contacted by the exact people I look for...
GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#14 - 2015-05-19 15:28:36 UTC  |  Edited by: GankYou
Syna Anima wrote:
Haatakan Reppola wrote:
Syna Anima wrote:
Just wanted to say thank you for the offers and contacts I've received so far.

Contrary to what some posters above say there are people in EVE willing to do business and value working together more than market profits. It's not always just about the ISK.

I am still looking for t2/t3 producers to start business partnerships. Terms are the same. Looking forward to your emails!


If its not about profits, why dont you pay jita buy value when even sell value is a loss compared to minerals needed to manufactuer the ships?
Thats right, its all about YOUR profits :P


TLDR: It's never easy with you guys. Stop trying to find reasons why this is not possible


Please realise that the MegaZyd input doubling for all Tech 1 had taken place just three weeks ago - The prices that you see in Jita do not reflect reality that the manufacturers have to live in, as that price is attached to pre-patch stock, and once it clears you won't ever see them again.

So, all-in-all, buy up all ze spaceships that are selling at, or below build cost, and haul to resell wherever, because you're not getting a quote below that. Smile

Syna Anima wrote:

I am surprised to see people so focused ONLY on profit


They invest 18 man-hours for the charity. Surely. Smile
Syna Anima
SYNDAX CORPORATION
Lord of Worlds Alliance
#15 - 2015-05-19 17:58:32 UTC
GankYou wrote:
Syna Anima wrote:
Haatakan Reppola wrote:
Syna Anima wrote:
Just wanted to say thank you for the offers and contacts I've received so far.

Contrary to what some posters above say there are people in EVE willing to do business and value working together more than market profits. It's not always just about the ISK.

I am still looking for t2/t3 producers to start business partnerships. Terms are the same. Looking forward to your emails!


If its not about profits, why dont you pay jita buy value when even sell value is a loss compared to minerals needed to manufactuer the ships?
Thats right, its all about YOUR profits :P


TLDR: It's never easy with you guys. Stop trying to find reasons why this is not possible


Please realise that the MegaZyd input doubling for all Tech 1 had taken place just three weeks ago - The prices that you see in Jita do not reflect reality that the manufacturers have to live in, as that price is attached to pre-patch stock, and once it clears you won't ever see them again.

So, all-in-all, buy up all ze spaceships that are selling at, or below build cost, and haul to resell wherever, because you're not getting a quote below that. Smile


Hmm... that is why prices continue to increase, a bit annoying. We will adapt. :)
GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#16 - 2015-05-20 18:36:09 UTC
Yes, it was turbulent times - especially during the first two weeks. Friends and colleagues started abusing Combat Booster use, and some even threatened to Self-Destruct their own POSes and freighters. Cry