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PROPOSITION: Preventing possibility of Drifter threat and war.
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Lan Wang
African Atomic.
Dreadnought Diplomacy.
#21 - 2015-05-14 11:09:41 UTC
escalation is inevitable, resistance is futile, i figure its a bit late to try and repair damage which has already been done, capsuleers attacking drifters and seekers for no reason has shown the complete ignorance and concord/authorities turning their heads the other way towards this aggression is rather disappointing, and now you are attempting to repair the situation when things are starting to escalate, it sounds weak.

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#22 - 2015-05-14 11:14:57 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
It sounds weak.


I'm afraid Wang is right. It's rather pointless to try backing out now; instead let's make the most of the current situation and... keep going?.

Half-assing any matter never lead to anything good.
  • Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim

Angels are never far...

Stillwater Corporation Recruitment Open - Angel Cartel Bloc
Halcyon Ember
Repracor Industries
#23 - 2015-05-14 11:18:06 UTC
Leopold Caine wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
It sounds weak.


I'm afraid Wang is right. It's rather pointless to try backing out now; instead let's make the most of the current situation and... keep going?.

Half-assing any matter never lead to anything good.


She's simply concerned that needing to fight Drifters will cut into her gallente killing time.

Queen of Chocolate
Kerena Alabel
Temple Of Inanna
Lucky Starbase Syndicate
#24 - 2015-05-14 17:07:13 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
I have been shown elsewhere that Drifters by themselves don't represent currently a significant threat and don't cause such horrible loss of lives and assets like actions of notorious Sansha Nation and Gallente Federation. Whether I still firm on my belief that there shouldn't be taken actions against Drifters yet and common efforts must be concentrated on defeating both Nation and Federation, latest developments as:

- amassing of Drifter fleets in undisclosed location;
- theft and autopsy of Drifter corpse by infamous pseudo-"scientists";
- and constant attacks on Drifters from capsuleer vessels

signify that the actions must be taken in order to prevent escalation of conflict with Drifters that can lead to the full scale war, that we can't allow ourselves to get entangled with while the Sansha Nation and Gallente Federation hasn't been completely defeated and crushed yet. For this, I PROPOSE:

1. Establish a CONCORD-enforced restriction on firing on Drifter ships. Violators are to be executed (provided they will survive). Named as enemies of the State, humanity, peace, and possible gallente supporters, should they escape, survive or reclone.

2. Pseudo-"scientists", responsible for extraction and autopsy of Drifter corpse are to be held responsible for attack on Yulai.

3. Prohibit these pseudo-"scientists" from approaching both Drifters and Jove installations. Shoot on sight in case of violation.

4. Capsleers, that have collaborated with pseudo-"scientists" and capsuleers that claimed themselves to be such "scientists" and participated in these treacherous acts against drifters are to be publicly executed and their corpses offered to drifters.

5. Warn these capsuleers and revoke their licenses in case the war will outbreak.

6. Prohibit manufacturing and usage of so-called Entosis Links.

7. Announce Antikythera Elements as illegal goods and remove them from all the markets.



You can have my Entosis links when you pry them from my cold dead hands.
Kerena Alabel
Temple Of Inanna
Lucky Starbase Syndicate
#25 - 2015-05-14 17:12:57 UTC
Halcyon Ember wrote:
Makoto Priano wrote:
I would like to offer a 50m bounty on Diana Kim, payable on delivery of Diana Kim's corpse to me.

Thank you.

That is all.



In the interests of safeguarding research and opposing ignorance, I propose to match Ms Prianos offer.



In the interests of science I will also match.
Solu Terona
Alexylva Paradox
#26 - 2015-05-14 17:18:55 UTC
Kerena Alabel wrote:
Halcyon Ember wrote:
Makoto Priano wrote:
I would like to offer a 50m bounty on Diana Kim, payable on delivery of Diana Kim's corpse to me.

Thank you.

That is all.



In the interests of safeguarding research and opposing ignorance, I propose to match Ms Prianos offer.



In the interests of science I will also match.


I will add a fourth 50 mil share to the offer, provided a kill mail with the delivering party as one of the damage dealers and that the destroyed assets are of significant value.

One navy scorpion should be sufficient.

Humans must eventually break out from the limits of biology, its not radical to accept the inevitable.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#27 - 2015-05-14 18:18:47 UTC
Oh, look, Kimmy is doing a thing again.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.
Enso Nibbana
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#28 - 2015-05-15 04:12:50 UTC
Why not strike first?
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#29 - 2015-05-15 04:19:07 UTC
Enso Nibbana wrote:
Why not strike first?


Because it was already done and the aggressor lost a Nyx for his trouble?

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Lan Wang
African Atomic.
Dreadnought Diplomacy.
#30 - 2015-05-15 09:54:43 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Enso Nibbana wrote:
Why not strike first?


Because it was already done and the aggressor lost a Nyx for his trouble?


nobody has lost a nyx to drifters

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#31 - 2015-05-15 10:55:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Leopold Caine
Lan Wang wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Enso Nibbana wrote:
Why not strike first?


Because it was already done and the aggressor lost a Nyx for his trouble?


nobody has lost a nyx to drifters


Indeed. I believe he's reffering to that Thanatos class carrier someone (Fatal Ascension, if I recall correctly) lost on the day of the appearance of Drifter battleships in New Eden. Curiosity killing the proverbial cat.

I'd expect a Gallente Militia member to be able to differentiate between a Thanatos and a Nyx.

That aside, Msr. Eglvand is right; the strike has been dealt and there's no going back now.
  • Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim

Angels are never far...

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Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#32 - 2015-05-15 11:49:50 UTC
Leopold Caine wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Enso Nibbana wrote:
Why not strike first?


Because it was already done and the aggressor lost a Nyx for his trouble?


nobody has lost a nyx to drifters


Indeed. I believe he's reffering to that Thanatos class carrier someone (Fatal Ascension, if I recall correctly) lost on the day of the appearance of Drifter battleships in New Eden. Curiosity killing the proverbial cat.

I'd expect a Gallente Militia member to be able to differentiate between a Thanatos and a Nyx.

That aside, Msr. Eglvand is right; the strike has been dealt and there's no going back now.


I do not participate in fleet battles much and truth be told, the silhouette always confuses me. Which silhouette is the Thanatos and which is the Nyx again?

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#33 - 2015-05-15 16:55:36 UTC
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Leopold Caine wrote:
Lan Wang wrote:
Elmund Egivand wrote:
Enso Nibbana wrote:
Why not strike first?


Because it was already done and the aggressor lost a Nyx for his trouble?


nobody has lost a nyx to drifters


Indeed. I believe he's reffering to that Thanatos class carrier someone (Fatal Ascension, if I recall correctly) lost on the day of the appearance of Drifter battleships in New Eden. Curiosity killing the proverbial cat.

I'd expect a Gallente Militia member to be able to differentiate between a Thanatos and a Nyx.

That aside, Msr. Eglvand is right; the strike has been dealt and there's no going back now.


I do not participate in fleet battles much and truth be told, the silhouette always confuses me. Which silhouette is the Thanatos and which is the Nyx again?


The Nyx is the bigger one.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Ashlar Maidstone
MoonFyre BattleGroup Holdings
#34 - 2015-05-16 04:10:53 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
I have been shown elsewhere that Drifters by themselves don't represent currently a significant threat and don't cause such horrible loss of lives and assets like actions of notorious Sansha Nation and Gallente Federation. Whether I still firm on my belief that there shouldn't be taken actions against Drifters yet and common efforts must be concentrated on defeating both Nation and Federation, latest developments as:

- amassing of Drifter fleets in undisclosed location;
- theft and autopsy of Drifter corpse by infamous pseudo-"scientists";
- and constant attacks on Drifters from capsuleer vessels

signify that the actions must be taken in order to prevent escalation of conflict with Drifters that can lead to the full scale war, that we can't allow ourselves to get entangled with while the Sansha Nation and Gallente Federation hasn't been completely defeated and crushed yet. For this, I PROPOSE:

1. Establish a CONCORD-enforced restriction on firing on Drifter ships. Violators are to be executed (provided they will survive). Named as enemies of the State, humanity, peace, and possible gallente supporters, should they escape, survive or reclone.

2. Pseudo-"scientists", responsible for extraction and autopsy of Drifter corpse are to be held responsible for attack on Yulai.

3. Prohibit these pseudo-"scientists" from approaching both Drifters and Jove installations. Shoot on sight in case of violation.

4. Capsleers, that have collaborated with pseudo-"scientists" and capsuleers that claimed themselves to be such "scientists" and participated in these treacherous acts against drifters are to be publicly executed and their corpses offered to drifters.

5. Warn these capsuleers and revoke their licenses in case the war will outbreak.

6. Prohibit manufacturing and usage of so-called Entosis Links.

7. Announce Antikythera Elements as illegal goods and remove them from all the markets.


Miss KIm, as much as you would like for something of this nature be possible, I am very much assuming that you are just as ignorant of the pressing matters we now have before us. Whatever happened in your past regarding Sansha and the Gallente and others is now history

In all the time I have observed you, you portray a refusal to accept what has happened is now history, and by turning a blind eye to the immediate threats we are faced with, you have refused to even accept the consequences of your attitude and recent acts of aggression thereby warranting your removal from the PPC talks.

I trust that somewhere deep down in that cold harden clone of yours that you would come to terms and accept what is now the present and stop living in the past. The present is waiting for you to accept.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#35 - 2015-05-16 05:03:00 UTC
Ashlar Maidstone wrote:

Miss KIm, as much as you would like for something of this nature be possible, I am very much assuming that you are just as ignorant of the pressing matters we now have before us. Whatever happened in your past regarding Sansha and the Gallente and others is now history

In all the time I have observed you, you portray a refusal to accept what has happened is now history...

Ashlar Maidstone

Ignorants are those, who speak about authors instead of the ideas.
Besides that telling that whatever sansha and gallente were doing is in PAST is an outrageous ignorance. Tell it to all POWs being tortured the same moment in gallentean camps while you write this, I think they will have a lot more colorful words to say to you about what they think about peoples like you.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Vladimir Kuvakei
Vera Potentia
#36 - 2015-05-16 05:14:16 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
themselves don't represent currently a significant threat and don't cause such horrible loss of lives and assets like actions of notorious Sansha Nation and Gallente Federation.


Can you please refrain from relating the Nation to the lazy hedonists that live in their so called "federation". Other then that I agree on those suggested policies as long as the drifters remain in their current passive state.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#37 - 2015-05-16 06:23:25 UTC
Vladimir Kuvakei wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
themselves don't represent currently a significant threat and don't cause such horrible loss of lives and assets like actions of notorious Sansha Nation and Gallente Federation.


Can you please refrain from relating the Nation to the lazy hedonists that live in their so called "federation". Other then that I agree on those suggested policies as long as the drifters remain in their current passive state.



I am terrible sorry for such relation. While so called "lazy hedonists" still occupying our space, killing and torturing our peaceful citizens, I believe that simple dismantling their Federation will be enough to stop their atrocities. Of course, Sansha Nation shouldn't be compared with them, but it doesn't make Sansha Nation less dangerous enemy. Counterwise, Sansha's minions are nothing but ugly monsters with wires instead of brains, they are infestations and perversion of human nature. Unlike the Federation, Sansha Nation shouldn't be simply defeated and disbanded, but must be eradicated everywhere, cleansed from every hiding holes, all their creations turned into dust and scattered on the wind.

Please excuse me again for this misunderstanding.

And thank you for your support.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.
Vladimir Kuvakei
Vera Potentia
#38 - 2015-05-16 08:29:40 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:
Vladimir Kuvakei wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:
themselves don't represent currently a significant threat and don't cause such horrible loss of lives and assets like actions of notorious Sansha Nation and Gallente Federation.


Can you please refrain from relating the Nation to the lazy hedonists that live in their so called "federation". Other then that I agree on those suggested policies as long as the drifters remain in their current passive state.



Counterwise, Sansha's minions are nothing but ugly monsters with wires instead of brains, they are infestations and perversion of human nature.


I am sad to hear such words, I am sure you will change your mind after you have been assimilated under Masters will. You would be surprised how just a few tiny implants can change someone's point of view for the better. Master of course does not want to go on "killing and torturing peaceful citizens" but bring them the great dream of the utopia that is Sansha's Nation.
Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#39 - 2015-05-17 11:19:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Luna Hanaya
Now if just more peoples would fight for peace instead war...

It is very alarming that certain individuals promote their interests in killing these Drifters for their "research", that is in fact "money-making", and all they need is just something or someone to farm. When someone speaks against them, they go all in spikes. Yes, Kim might be too violent, but them are just cynic selfish heathens...

Let the God has mercy on their souls.

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The Cylar Foundation
#40 - 2015-05-17 15:10:18 UTC
Luna Hanaya wrote:
Now if just more peoples would fight for peace instead war...

It is very alarming that certain individuals promote their interests in killing these Drifters for their "research", that is in fact "money-making", and all they need is just something or someone to farm. When someone speaks against them, they go all in spikes. Yes, Kim might be too violent, but them are just cynic selfish heathens...

Let the God has mercy on their souls.


I concur.

It seems that war and profit are still the main driving forces of New Eden.

I have seen whole groups of capsuleers assault Circadian Seekers for no reason other than to possibly harvest a few grains of kythera.

Heathens indeed.
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