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[P.P.C.] Announcement of Pakhshi Peace Conference
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Cakzad Arcashiri
Arcashiri Family
#141 - 2015-05-15 14:28:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Cakzad Arcashiri
Jili Tonari wrote:
This is a noble effort but...


Can this conference take all Matari from the Empire and send them home?

Can this conference give the Caldari people their homeworld?

Can this conference end the border wars?

Can this conference end organized piracy?

Can this conference communicate with Drifters?

Can this conference save the Jove (if it is not already too late)?

Can this conference end slavery?

Can the results of this conference sway our peoples or governments?

Is this more than an exercise in ego?



1: 5% Chance
2: 95% Chance
3: 100% Chance
4: 50-50 (Because apparently there are pirates as delegates)
5: 0% Chance (not a goal)
6: Unknown
7: Don't put your hopes on it.
8: 50% Chance
9: Not at all.

"I give to you the destiny of Faith,

And you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens:

Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given."

- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 22:13
Feu dAstres
Nox Draconum Holding Corp
#142 - 2015-05-15 14:34:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Feu dAstres
The answer, Jill, is an optimistic "maybe" ... therefore I think it's worth the effort to try.

*wanders off singing "Optimistique Moi" softly*
Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#143 - 2015-05-15 15:03:02 UTC
Cakzad Arcashiri wrote:

4: 100% Chance


Put down the drugs, sir.
Liam Antolliere
Doomheim
#144 - 2015-05-15 15:49:23 UTC
Jili Tonari wrote:
This is a noble effort but...


Can this conference take all Matari from the Empire and send them home?

Can this conference give the Caldari people their homeworld?

Can this conference end the border wars?

Can this conference end organized piracy?

Can this conference communicate with Drifters?

Can this conference save the Jove (if it is not already too late)?

Can this conference end slavery?


No, nor is it intended to any of the above.


Jili Tonari wrote:
Can the results of this conference sway our peoples or governments?


Only time will tell.


Jili Tonari wrote:
Is this more than an exercise in ego?


Perhaps not for everyone, but for some of us; yes, it is more.

Your questions represent a fundamental misunderstanding of the purpose and intent of this conference, which would be rectified by reading through the original post and perhaps the first two pages of discussion.

In brief: the conference is designed to be an airing of ideas and open discussion regarding what various parties and interests around the cluster would pursue in the name of peace. Then, to establish commissions and groups to devise workable solutions toward reaching those goals to provide an action plan going forward.

That action plan can be followed by those of us intent on doing so, shared with the major powers of the cluster and generally used to represent an ideal beyond each of us individually: the ideal that peace can be sought after if we strive to do so and put that ideal into a workable form.

Nothing more, nothing less. It makes no presumptions of power or official backing.

"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."
Liam Antolliere
Doomheim
#145 - 2015-05-15 15:55:41 UTC
A restructuring of the Conference has been decided upon internally based upon feedback and internal discussion, below is the proposed restructuring of the Conference in terms of voting representation and tallying:

Each delegate will need to register a group they intend to participate on behalf of from below:

Amarr Empire
Gallente Federation
Minmatar Republic
Caldari State
Indepent Interests (includes pirate factions, independent capsuleer interests, corporate interests, etc)

Each of these groups is provided a total voting power of 10. Each delegate within each voting bloc will have an individual voting power equal to 10 divided by the number of delegates participating under the group. (So a group with five delegates representing it would have a voting power of 2 for each individual within it).

This will allow each individual within a voting bloc to maintain their individual voting power and vote according to their own convictions and stances without having to vote in party with their bloc but also limit the ability of one voter bloc overpowering another simply by having more representation.

It is our sincere hope that this restructuring serves the conference and its delegates more effectively and allows for a more even and fair representation of each involved group.

"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."
Tabor Murn
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#146 - 2015-05-15 17:03:40 UTC
Leopold Caine wrote:


Tabor Murn wrote:

It's quite clear what sort of peace your lot are after. The same as always. You wish to get your way and everyone else must bend their knee to your wishes.


While you're at it, you should go and hold Tiberious' hand regarding his 'PPC organizers are Angel sympathizers' conspiracy theory.

You do understand the person who was in charge of approving admittances to the conference is a Federal loyalist and ethnic Gallente himself, right?


Mr. Caine. My objection was not with the process by which delegates were approved, but with the imbalanced voting procedures initially in place and the inevitable abuse of that imbalance by whichever party was in the majority. M. Antolliere and the other organizers of the event are graciously making an effort to correct the previous problems with the conference.
Farlas Ibana
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#147 - 2015-05-15 17:27:48 UTC
Why is the Veldnaught, - the only cap ship in hi-sec - in Pakhshi today?

And why is heading for the station housing the peace conference at full sub light speed?


. . . . . . . . . . OH NO, NOT AGAIN . . . . . !!!!
Tyrel Toov
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#148 - 2015-05-15 17:43:34 UTC
Cakzad Arcashiri wrote:
Jili Tonari wrote:
This is a noble effort but...


Can this conference take all Matari from the Empire and send them home?

Can this conference give the Caldari people their homeworld?

Can this conference end the border wars?

Can this conference end organized piracy?

Can this conference communicate with Drifters?

Can this conference save the Jove (if it is not already too late)?

Can this conference end slavery?

Can the results of this conference sway our peoples or governments?

Is this more than an exercise in ego?



1: 5% Chance
2: 95% Chance
4: 100% Chance
5: 50-50 (Because apparently there are pirates as delegates)
6: 0% Chance (not a goal)
7: Unknown
8: Don't put your hopes on it.
9: 50% Chance
10: Not at all.

1 and 3 don't mesh my friend.

I want to paint my ship Periwinkle.
Liam Antolliere
Doomheim
#149 - 2015-05-15 18:15:30 UTC
Published with permission from the standing Chair of the Conference:

Letter wrote:

The Chair wishes to address the Matari delegates who walked out of the Conference. At the start of tonight's session, the Chair will be issuing a full, frank apology to the issue of Matari under-representation in the voting system I inherited. Just as you were free to leave as was your right and will, if you will hear the Commission's words, you are free to return. I will be ordering immediately after the apology is read out for it to be included in the minutes of the session, in full, and published by Mr Antolliere on the IGS.

Lastly, the Chair will begin this session by revisiting those Commissions that caused the Matari walk out. It is understood Delegate Ayallah, by her IGS post, has worked hard with the other Delegates to propose a new Commission, this will be floored and voted upon using the new method. I also invite Delegate Tabor Murn to address the Conference in the same light.

Once revisitations are done, if there is time the session will be dedicated to further Commissions. Due to the recent delays to the normal scheduling of the sessions, the planned dinner on the 16th will be held on the 17th to allow one more day of the General Congress in order to elect each Commission's officers.

On a final note, the Chair reminds those Delegates unable to attend a given session, that they are free to mail proposed Commissions over this mailing list, and the Chair will read them out on the Delegate's behalf.

Kind Regards

Utari Onzo
Chair of the General Congress

"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."
Cakzad Arcashiri
Arcashiri Family
#150 - 2015-05-15 19:32:32 UTC
I sent a commission through mail. No one has responded. It was on Day 3.

As some of the less proper would say: "Just sayin'"

"I give to you the destiny of Faith,

And you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens:

Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given."

- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 22:13
Jili Tonari
Doomheim
#151 - 2015-05-15 20:03:38 UTC
Thank you for your reply M. Antolliere.

I remain unconvinced, but wish ya the best of luck.

“Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search of our better selves.”
Brynalyd Takiyashi
No Tax here Okay
#152 - 2015-05-15 20:17:49 UTC
After reading extensively on the recent peace meeting. I would like to breach the subject of the formation of an Emergency Conscription Fleet.
What I mean by this, is it possible that we, as capsuleers, can form a "draft" that would take volunteers to combat a potential war between the empires and the ongoing Drifter Threat.

Sincerely,
B. Takiyashi
Titus Veridius
Calamitous-Intent
#153 - 2015-05-15 20:22:51 UTC
THE EMPRESS NEEDS HER BOAT FINISHED TO DEFEAT THE DRIFTERS!
- Petition to Finish the Aeon Model -

http://i.imgur.com/myo5mKg.jpg

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5748552#post5748552
Liam Antolliere
Doomheim
#154 - 2015-05-15 22:19:04 UTC
Monsieur Takiyashi,

Your interest in the conference is both appreciated and encouraged. I would suggest you direct your request to a delegate who can bring it before the General Congress for discussion. I would offer to do so myself but it would seem a breach of trust to do so given my administrative capacity.

Monsieur Veridius,

Please direct your advertisement elsewhere, this thread is not intended for discussions on various ways to combat the Drifters. Your cooperation is appreciated.

Thank you.

"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."
Liam Antolliere
Doomheim
#155 - 2015-05-15 22:19:50 UTC
Cakzad Arcashiri wrote:
I sent a commission through mail. No one has responded. It was on Day 3.

As some of the less proper would say: "Just sayin'"


I trust you'll be understanding if we've been a bit sidetracked due to recent events? Your appeal has not gone unnoticed.

"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."
Liam Antolliere
Doomheim
#156 - 2015-05-15 22:21:58 UTC
Approved for immediate release:

Formal Apology wrote:

"To the Matari Delegates.

The Chair would like to offer its full, unequivocal apologies for the voter imbalance that resulted in your walk out. It was wrong of the Commission, and myself, to proceed with an inherently flawed system. While I inherited the system, it was an oversite of myself and this Commission to have not seen it, and addressed it. We hope the new voting system as previously announced will address your grievences, and we offer full apologies for the fact your proposals could not truely be given full and free hearing under the previous voting system.

I am truely sorry for this, and ask if you will accept the Commissions apologies."

Utari Onzo
Chair of the General Congress


This comes with the understanding that the proposals originally brought to the floor by these delegates should be revisited under the new organizational system to allow a more fair and balanced fielding of the proposals.

"Though the people may hate me, that does not relieve me of my charge."
Cakzad Arcashiri
Arcashiri Family
#157 - 2015-05-16 14:13:19 UTC
Liam Antolliere wrote:
Cakzad Arcashiri wrote:
I sent a commission through mail. No one has responded. It was on Day 3.

As some of the less proper would say: "Just sayin'"


I trust you'll be understanding if we've been a bit sidetracked due to recent events? Your appeal has not gone unnoticed.


Don't worry, it is quite understandable.

"I give to you the destiny of Faith,

And you will bring its message to every planet of every star in the heavens:

Go forth, conquer in my Name, and reclaim that which I have given."

- The Scriptures, Book of Reclaiming 22:13
Jili Tonari
Doomheim
#158 - 2015-05-16 14:30:55 UTC
Brynalyd Takiyashi wrote:
After reading extensively on the recent peace meeting. I would like to breach the subject of the formation of an Emergency Conscription Fleet.
What I mean by this, is it possible that we, as capsuleers, can form a "draft" that would take volunteers to combat a potential war between the empires and the ongoing Drifter Threat.

Sincerely,
B. Takiyashi




Wow...

So you can't legally go slaving in other systems anymore, so you try to find a loophole to take more slaves and call it "emergency conscription?"

Exactly how is a "conscript" who has been "drafted" a "volunteer?"

And this is supposed to be a peace conference?

And the thing is, I betcha don't even realize how much of a sociopath you really are. I bet you think that was a generally good idea!

#NoAbolitionNoPeace!


“Where must we go, we who wander this wasteland, in search of our better selves.”
ValentinaDLM
SoE Roughriders
Electus Matari
#159 - 2015-05-17 01:36:22 UTC
I for one, would like to see greater Matari representation, not just here but in all things in New Eden. Also, best of luck Delegate Ayallah, as one Brutor to another, I have faith in your ability to represent the Matari.
Kale Silence
Doomheim
#160 - 2015-05-17 05:05:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Kale Silence
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Kale Silence wrote:
I'm curious.

Why do the votes matter? You have no decision-making authority over meRoll


Why do you think we give a damn about you? This is about pro-offering suggestions aimed at solving problems between the Empires, not a single itinerant Matari capsuleer. You'll do what you damn well always have - what all of us do - whatever you want. Frankly, suggesting ways to the Empires to rein Capsuleers in would be a bit self-defeating of the conference.


Damn, you're quite the charmer, aren'tchya? Roll Sorry for not responding quickly, but frankly the feeling is mutual sweetcakes ;)