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Again....never said that it wouldn't be utterly fun or hillarious.
Its irrational in the current system and how EVE Online functions in the context of very (not large or itty bitty) large scale fleet fights.

The whole reason behind time dialation is the primary reason for this being horrible...the server CANNNOT HANDLE IT.

Its slowing down time in-game to catch up to the clients requesting copious update requests.

If the OP had bothered to read the freaking dev'blogs you might actually learn something.

LOS is great in a funny friendly fire scenario,...but this is not reallity...this is not terran field space...its space.

And there's a-lot of it.

For a purpose of server "knowing" whether you can shoot or not - no, this line does not exist now. And to "know" it server must cope with the dreadful "n square" problem. You do not need to know all the math and coding to understand that, it is very simple logic actually. It is amazing how many people still can't understand it though.

The line you are talking about is drawn by your client and evaluated by your brain. The server does not possess their computing power and needs to rely only on his own, for the sake of security.

The only thing we don't know without knowledge of all EVE innards is how much it will add to the existing calculations. Will they increase tenfold, or by a mere 10% because server already does so many things. But " n square " inevitably will be there.

I suppose you could argue that missiles are "guided" and they would be able to menuever around obstacles to hit a target but then you may or may not have to account for the distance in that menuever around said object. Missiles would indeed be a little trickier to change.

Calculating to see whether a shot can be taken is rather easy.

- Do, and remember, the calculation of distances between you and all ships.
- - http://www.calculatorsoup.com/calculators/geometry-solids/distance-two-points.php -
- - - distance = sqrt(abs((x2-x1)^2+(y2-y1)^2+(z2-z1)^2)))
- Then calculate the angle of the ships that are within radius of you and the ship you're going to shoot.
- If all calculated ships are outside your line of site (Call it say one or two degrees)
- - if the server decides if a ship is to be shot at, the server will either allow the shot and do the appropriate math, or force a "misfire" or some sort.
- - if the client decides if a ship is to be shot at, the command to the server can be "turn off the gun" or just call "misfire"

Notes:
- The calculation needs to only happen once every time a weapon is to be shot.
- Calculating the ships within the radius of you and your target eliminates the extra calculation of angles. Since the ships outside the sphere of you and your target, its not in your line of site.

Now, the one thing I *CANNOT* answer is how much extra load this would be on the server. If the calculation were to happen client side, then this would have to be done once for every grouped weapon firing, then something can be sent to the server to say go/no-go on the shot. If this is run on the server, it has to be figured each time a weapon is fired. In 1000 ship fleet battles, it'd get pretty damned heavy as several ships may be firing on the same frequency.

Then, as mentioned, the problem with fuel propelled ammo is that if another ship wanders into range while said ammo is enroute to your target, how would that be handled? Personally, if the consideration that if a shot is taken, and someone gets in range, friendly or not, it should be a hit, but CONCORD wouldn't be called because your target wandered into range, and your shot shouldn't be considered an act of aggression since your target was something else. Exploitable? Possibly, but it'd be hard to do more than once.

Personally, I think it WOULD add some realism to this. I've not ever been in a massive fleet fight, but still seems like a cool idea.