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Read what you wrote. It does not replace current Player Owned Stations, it replaces current Player Owned Stations? Wat.



I know you don't. Picture every single moon in any system being wracked with indestructible POS that have doomsday weapons capable of destroying entire fleets of ships, squads of capital ships, and possibly even motherships and titans, and that is without mentioning or going into detail the preposterous military planning necessary to actually invade and conquer an entire region of space literally packed with them. Heavy regulation is a necessity if it is to survive its release and subsequent use.

If you do not see a problem with with its initial design, there is nothing that can be said to you to convince you otherwise. However, because of the nature of your posts, you are so far behind the learning curb I will only be responding to experienced players from this point forward.

As I've stated before, the concept of another type of more powerful, and thus, secure POS system is not the problem. The initial concepts that were, obviously, hastily put together are in need of severe redacting and modification. In any event, doomsday weapons on a POS unless they are severely limited in their placement and use is so outside the realm of anything else in EvE it begs for reassessment, and they are POS, regardless of words and terms used to label them.

Citadel Structures immediately need redacting because of one fundamental reason, besides those that follow; The unforeseen consequences of this need to be taken into consideration before CCP even contemplates signing off on this idea. It needs no explanation. Good luck doing that with AOE weapons and Doomsday coming at you, in any capacity.

Docking of Motherships, while not a terrible idea, would require an enormous docking bay at least 3.5k by 3.5k on the structure itself, and if this would be allowed, why not just go all the way with it and allow titans. The structure is certainly large enough to accommodate many titans, though the size of the bay taking up 1/6 of the structures size and the impossible internal structure needed to accommodate them would look awkward and be unrealistic. For good reasons, it isent allowed. Not too mention the unrealistic logistical problems of actually docking and storing a ship of that size. Besides this, it would provide a perverted strategic advantage that is unrivalled elsewhere in the galaxy and by other powers, only again helping to make null static and stagnant, while protecting entire fleets of supers from being lost to any type of neglect, when docked, or theft.

The single target weapons alone render and obsolete several aspects of current gameplay, making ships like dreadnoughts far less valuable as they are meant for siege warfare, these guns offer the opportunity for a few pilots to bring down (possibly?) several dreads looking to do damage, single handedly.

Launcher with Area of effect missiles are similar in initial design to miniature doomsday day devices, which were toned down because of their OP ability to clear entire battlefields by themselves. If this was actually approved, it needs severe damage reduction from the initial suggestion, although the idea of forcing fleets to scatter out and use more complicated logistics isent without its merits. Energy draining missiles is just ridiculous and allowing them to mass drain entire clusters of ships needs a realistic explanation and application on how to actually return the energy to the Citadel and for what purpose, maybe energy neutralizing missiles, but certainly draining, implies the energy is returned to some source and somehow. Furthermore, trying to actually use an entosis link even on a massive scale would be impractical and a death sentence.

Doomsday weapons on a POS, besides its open threat and obvious immediate cost to anyone bringing Titans and Supers to the fight, is such a bloody mess of an idea that if it were to be implemented, it must come at catastrophic cost to every other usable system at the Cits disposal. This would also limit, or at great cost to invading fleets allow, the use of capitals. The cause of this is apparent that after taking just one system even pock marked with these weapons, they wouldent have much of a capital fleet left to continue on in conquest afterwords, nevermind taking a region because it would be military and economic suicide.

If it is not an option to belay its release, until it is properly toned down, and it has already been determined it will be a part of the upcoming installments, its rush will do far more harm then good when it is put to use and has to be (inevitably) hacked and nerfed to ribbons later on. It runs the gambit of alienating players that immediately go to putting it in use. Furthermore, its benefits are one sided towards existing alliances and even the suggestion of its development should be examined. Misuse and improper implementation of this idea will have unforeseen blowback that could cause severe consequences, in all respects.

No docking puts you inside and safe, but you still see the grid outside the station.

The invulnerability link (we need a new name for this, taking suggestions) provides security while you are undocked and mobile around the structure.

Since the dev is comparing these citadels to ships

will these citadels come with insurance?

I mean he's acting like these things can be made and replaced on a whim should they get destroyed.. mind you without detailing on how folks will be able to get their stuff from the field.


so if its hard or difficult to destroy it... how easy would it be to replace it? or does ccp just want the swarm of titans and supers to come raining down on the little guy just to zap it for the lulz.


answer the question pls ccp nullabator

* Converting all current player outposts to XLarge Citadels would solve the outpost reimbursement issue, provided these outposts come already fitted, using a determinable fitting.

Yes, it would Limit them specifically to huge alliances and powerful corperations, which money and resources are no object for.

They would be mass manufactured and inevitably it would be abused by organizations to augment and solidify their already staggering power, forever sealing null against any type of incursion from almost any type of outside force, not grand fathered in.

Now to kill a tower - I shoot it, and if it is stornted come back for after reinforcement cycle to shoot it again. With the new system I have to shoot it at 2 or three vulnerable periods and go play whack a mole in an untold number of adjacent systems. Sounds worse to me.

lol, isn't that how it always happens?

"Yay, CCP is doing stuff to other people and it's great...wait, what do you mean it's going to happen to me too? WTF? Bad idea....BAD IDEA!!!!

The Entosis Link and Vulnerability Windows were first floated in Fozzies devblog over 10 weeks ago, as were the mechanics for using them to capture structures, and the fact that structure bashing as a thing is over. The time to try and stop that juggernaut was then; that ship has so far sailed now its off the horizon. I know, I know, you all thought it was just nullsec players getting it in the ass, and it was really funny too, but heres the reality, we are all getting it. The sooner you accept that you will be babysitting your structures through vulnerability windows, and you will be racing interceptors to capture nodes, and structure bashing in any form is gone and not coming back, the quicker you can focus on the fine details, because that is all you are changing at this late stage of the day.