EVE New Citizens Q&A

I've been playing this game for 5 months now and I'm looking down the road for a goal. I'm not into PVP and I'm a solo player. I've been playing MMO's for about 14 years and I've never joined a guild and I don't plan to join a corp. I don't mind duking it out with NPCs but not really with other players. So why the hell am I playing this game? Because all the other MMO's seem like they are being marketed to kids. They level too fast, combat is too easy and they got childish(some), and boring. Eve is difficult and I like that.

I'm more of a builder then a fighter, so I was wondering if it's possible for a solo player to work towards having a POS or something like that. I don't really understand that part of the game yet. Taking time to figure it out is good too, but if it isn't really feasible then maybe I should move on.

Does anyone ever make things or provide some kind of service for a corp without actually joining, (so they leave me alone and don't blow my sh.. stuff up)?

What can a solo pacifist do?

Thanks,

Eve is a PvP game and an MMO. I say this as a PvE player. But make no mistake about it this game is intentionaly designed towards PvP group activity. The devs have said repeatedly that their goal is to encourage group efforts over solo efforts. I'm not saying you can't play this game as a solo PvEer I'm just saying you are swimming up stream.

If you want to solo build stuff play mine craft. Not sure why you want to play an MMO if you want to do everything solo. There are a million solo games out there. However it's your $15 a month so don't let me tell you how to play.

I would offer some advice, but that would be against your principles of working with someone in an MMO, and I would hate to be the one to ruin your enjoyment of this game..

Uh, I guess you could do some exploration, run level 4's, do all seven epic arcs, buy a carrier, do level fives, move to w-space, solo a c6 site in a dread and then quit out of boredom? Just make sure you don't get ganked an never interact with the market. You might encounter pvp there.

Are we sure this isn't a troll thread? This really seems like cutting out most of what eve has to offer. The only real options I can think of is getting into industry/trading which is a form of pvp, or just grinding the same missions over and over, which still will have pvp in the form of ganking and selling to the market.

No, it isn't.

How, exactly?

The problem is that all the activities in EVE are interrelated in such a way that they do basically boil down to the traditional understanding of "PvP"... that being conflict with other players, usually at the end of a gun barrel.

That's why people by-and-large say that EVE is about PvP.


That said...

- It IS possible to operate mostly solo in EVE... it is just fairly hard to do.

- I say "mostly solo" in the last point because "keeping to yourself" will only be so effective and work for so long. Eventually everyone has to deal with other players for better or worse.

- There are groups out there that specialize in "building" rather than destroying... but they generally keep a low profile (for obvious reasons) and/or join with more "aggressive" groups for safety (and potentially a market they can sell to).

- In EVE, building things depends on and feeds conflict/warfare. The best building opportunities one can find will usually be within the "thick" of such conflicts. The trick is to manage the risk to yourself in such a way that your margins outweigh the costs and risks.


- Your pacifist ethos will only work if you accept that the fruits of your labors will be used in the destruction of others... which will, in turn, make you a target to both the people you are in economic competition with and the people who are the enemies of the people you sold stuff to.
There are no "civilians" or "innocents" here.

- If you have a strong sense of honor... that's good. It means you can eventually become someone people trust. Just don't expect others to feel or behave the same way.


- Don't refuse to join with a group of people "just because." Being social in EVE will give you a HUGE advantage both in information and support. It can also mean the difference between staying or leaving EVE.
After all... why be in an MMO at all if all you want to do is play by yourself?

- There as many different types of organizations are there are people... each with their own way of doing things.
Some will be the stereotypical "hardcore" groups that demand your attention and obedience. Others won't care what you do or where. And many more fall somewhere in between.

No, that is not the problem.

The problem is that people deliberately misconstrue what is meant by "PvP" when someone says they want to avoid it as much as possible.

I refuse to believe that there is anyone on these forums who doesn't know that "PvP" in this context means DIRECT player versus player COMBAT.

The OP is enquiring about going into industry as an independent enterprise. Do you seriously believe that he doesn't realise that he will have to compete with other industrialists in that endeavour, whether selling to the open market or by arrangement with a particular corp? If you do you are grossly insulting his intelligence.

Thank you for providing an excellent example of exactly the sort of deliberate misinterpretation that I mentioned.

EDIT: typed too long, Signal Cartel already mentioned by above post.

OP, maybe Signal Cartel corp is worth a look. Group of explorers, providing one of the most valuable services in EvE https://www.eve-scout.com/ and pacifist (don't shoot first).

For non-combat solo, exploration, market stuff, PI, industry are possible options ...but keeping away from other players is really hard in EvE and would certainly involve some masochism.

Do you know the X-series from Egosoft? Similar setting but single player games.