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[News] DED won't give back our heroes

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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#41 - 2015-05-13 17:23:54 UTC
How unprofessional.
Capsuleers are bickering between themselves and against DED that finally decided to take action against gallentean misbehavior.

I hope these Scope suspects will be admitted guilty and executed for espionage.
Thanks.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#42 - 2015-05-13 17:27:07 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#43 - 2015-05-13 18:02:58 UTC
Jaret Victorian wrote:
You had to mention Tibus Heth...


But! I wasn't looking in a mirror or anything!

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2015-05-13 21:05:01 UTC
Anyanka, Evi, thank you so much for your concern.

So we don't spend too much time on this tangent, I'll use small words. Try to keep up.

I am a Khanid. If King Khanid's separation from the Empire proved anything, it is that a person can be loyal to God and the Faith, without being loyal to the Empire. His reunification was not a total one and while the Kingdom is a part of the political entity of the Empire, it is a sovereign state.

Many Khanid are critical of the Empire. We had been called traitors and heretics. And the decision to rejoin Amarr was not entirely popular. My oaths as a Cyberknight are to God, Khanid and his people. The Empire made it impossible for me to maintain those oaths and still work within the laws of the Empire. That stems from the increasing control CONCORD has in Imperial affairs.

As to my business affiliations, the Cartel has certain expectations from their associates. A degree of loyalty to a person's family or home isn't an issue as long as things are running smoothly. And since I tend to operate in areas well away from Khanid, there has been no conflict of interest.

So yes, I can be proud of my Khanid heritage. I can be a defender of my people. I can be critical of an Empire that has sat back and festered while Sani Sabik and Kuvakei run rampant through it's systems and its own bloody militia. When I need to work outside Imperial or CONCORD law, I do so with impunity. Most importantly, can maintain my faith with my God, who is the only person I do answer to.

Does that compute?

Good.

Now we can get back to discussing the real criminals in this thread, the DED.

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#45 - 2015-05-13 21:45:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Pieter Tuulinen
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
while Sani Sabik and Kuvakei run rampant through it's systems and its own bloody militia.


Oh my Bog. Get this through your skull, Mokk, you work for human traffickers, peddlers in degradation and drug pushers. You are not morally superior to ANYONE.

The difference between Scum and Monsters is pretty damn academic. Some of it comes from measurement of capability and not intentions. If your Cartel had the power that Nation has, I'm pretty sure you'd be doing what they are doing - namely anything they want.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#46 - 2015-05-13 22:02:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Anyanka Funk
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
while Sani Sabik and Kuvakei run rampant through it's systems and its own bloody militia.


The difference between Scum and Monsters is pretty damn academic ... If your Cartel had the power that Nation has, I'm pretty sure you'd be doing what they are doing - namely anything they want.


Ha! Nice to see how you think of your co-workers.
Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#47 - 2015-05-13 22:39:12 UTC
Personally, I think there's a bit of a moralistic difference in engaging in certain criminal activities and mass murder with an aim towards genocide.

I find it interesting that you Nation supporters are being so very vocally supportive of the DED and the Empire and so very desperate to shine a spotlight on the Cartel.

So where were all of you on the night of Dr. Sarain's death? Why is Funk trying to draw attention away from you?

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#48 - 2015-05-13 23:14:15 UTC
Since when am I supportive of the DED? Can't I hate both them and you?

And continually accusing Nation of Genocidal intentions is amusing. Seeing as Nation wants you alive, where as it is the empires that attempted genocide upon Nation eighty years ago.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#49 - 2015-05-13 23:48:16 UTC
Anyanka Funk wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
while Sani Sabik and Kuvakei run rampant through it's systems and its own bloody militia.


The difference between Scum and Monsters is pretty damn academic ... If your Cartel had the power that Nation has, I'm pretty sure you'd be doing what they are doing - namely anything they want.


Ha! Nice to see how you think of your co-workers.


I suppose I have to explain that whilst I value my kirjuun and their contribution to our bottom line, that doesn't mean I agree with their politics. I'm a Patriot bloc State Loyalist. Evi's a Nation supporter. You think she doesn't know I think Nation have acted like Monsters? She is, at least, an honest monster and a valued comrade one can rely upon.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Kerena Alabel
Temple Of Inanna
#50 - 2015-05-14 16:36:54 UTC
"YC109-01-12 - They let names define their perceptions."
Jev North
Doomheim
#51 - 2015-05-14 16:43:38 UTC
Kerena Alabel wrote:
"YC109-01-12 - They let names define their perceptions."

I was wondering just when someone would start quoting these like religious scripture.

Even though our love is cruel; even though our stars are crossed.

Kerena Alabel
Temple Of Inanna
#52 - 2015-05-14 16:53:21 UTC
Jev North wrote:
Kerena Alabel wrote:
"YC109-01-12 - They let names define their perceptions."

I was wondering just when someone would start quoting these like religious scripture.


I admit i have been a little obsessed with the information gleaned from Jove observatories. Perhaps ive spent too much time using the new entosis links. I cant say i care if that's the case. I have however found a degree of wisdom from the information. If it doesn't resonate with you that's fine. The Jove hardly forced their views on us so why would i do it either? Im just reminding you all of this information. Do what you will with it.
Dradis Aulmais
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#53 - 2015-05-15 17:50:53 UTC
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/ded-confirms-age-of-tukoss-footage-releases-detainees

What it doesnt tell you is that the courts ordered their release, the DED couldnt break the Freedom of the Press Act

Dradis Aulmais, Federal Attorney Number 54896

Free The Scope Three

Jaret Victorian
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#54 - 2015-05-15 19:29:25 UTC
Dradis Aulmais wrote:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/ded-confirms-age-of-tukoss-footage-releases-detainees

What it doesnt tell you is that the courts ordered their release, the DED couldnt break the Freedom of the Press Act

Freedom!
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#55 - 2015-05-15 22:54:37 UTC
Dradis Aulmais wrote:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/ded-confirms-age-of-tukoss-footage-releases-detainees

What it doesnt tell you is that the courts ordered their release, the DED couldnt break the Freedom of the Press Act

And I'm supposing you have hard proof of this, rather than just inventing it to justify your own stance?
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#56 - 2015-05-16 06:49:50 UTC
Jaret Victorian wrote:
Dradis Aulmais wrote:
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/world-news/ded-confirms-age-of-tukoss-footage-releases-detainees

What it doesnt tell you is that the courts ordered their release, the DED couldnt break the Freedom of the Press Act

Freedom!

Say NO to Freedom!

All hail Law and Order!

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#57 - 2015-05-16 22:11:25 UTC
Your free to feel that way, those are the joys of freedom...
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