Wormholes

Can anyone explain how such structures are at all feasible in w-space? All the devblogs are clearly nullsec focused, which is fine, but these changes make no sense for wormhole dwellers.

We don't need new structures, we need better roles and, via those roles, better security and control over access to assets.

Honestly all the need to do for wormholes is a pos 2.0 with working role management.

An id assume they will address the mechanic of getting loot from a destroyed citidel in whs so it doesent go back to the ways of farming and never killing anyone cuz you got nothing from it but they have said that moored ships will be free for all when it is destroyed.. a mechanic to allow attackers to hack into loot after a certain reinforce timer would be cool

Hell they already have the hacking mechanic in place just add it to the containers.. even make them explode everywhere in system when wreak dies so you have to chase down and hack the loot and if you fail it pops.

What looks nice:



http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/67200/1/Structurestates-02.png





Now only if you could check who is docked in then I'm OK with structure overhaul.

I am very positive to the citadels. Better defense, better timer/capture mechanics then current system. It will make dreads pointless in an attack and numbers more vital. But thats still the case. Less grinding, more fighting.

And FINALLY get away the stupid tz tactics. I have no words to describe how stupid the current stront mechanism is. It encourages attackers to AVOID the targets active timezone. The less interaction the easier to capture a system. This need to die a horrible death in fire and brimstone. Please CCP! The description suggested in the blog for capture is as good as perfect compared to the current system.

Edit: Some more thoughts.
- anchor everywhere. GOOD
- no autodefence but defined vulnerability time-frame. GOOD. It encourages activity
- Market and offices: GOOD
- awesome new aoe torpedos. Stirs up the feeling of old time pvp from back when. Cant but love it.
- docking: IF scanning structures let you see number of people docked and what ship they arein in addition to the station fittings its a possible acceptable solution. Introduce a new scanner that works while cloaked?


AND: will these be possible to anchor in shattered space?

I dont think they intend for you to ever be able to set up shop in a shattered but its possible.. or maybe only allow industry types in shattered that are time expiring that would be cool and easier to attack..

and they should not be allowed on a wh or within 100km

people will just fortify themselves and use them as a force multiplier in fights on top of home field advantage and reshipping etc

The alternative is free-anchored structures at deep safe spots undetectable by a covert scout without combat probes. How is that preserve wormhole space gameplay?

I'd like more info on the 1st 2nd and 3rd RFO timers. As a wh person this makes me sad. It pretty much prevents wh folks from endangering a structure within the lifetime of a wh.

As an example:

We get a direct null into the Corbexx system in the Bad Potato region of Nullbearville. We bring out our entosis equipments and go to work. Poof we RFO the station thinger.

Sadly, we can force no content as our wh will expire long before the RFO timer. If you want to lobby for wh folk, then lobby to allow us to drive conflict Please please please give wh folk the ability to put a null structure in real jeopardy w/out requiring some large combersome invasion or giving a large alliance full of F1 tools 2+ days to move thier massive numbers into position.

I guess overall I would hope in all this great change there is some way for wh folk to give a null alliance a meaningful kick in the junk during their short connection. I don't want to be able to take away SOV or anything grand. I do want the ability to come out and wonk something that will hurt them if they don't defend. We've suffered through years of docking null.





Finally Corbexx.... Really??


Docking games? They've just docked for the most part for years. If the changes bring about docking games.... at least there will be games.

"Since they could be anywhere how will you find them?" Did you really come to the wh forum with this? If there is a group that is totally equipped to quickly find anything findable in this game - it's the readers of this forum. I'd say you were falling out of touch w/ wh, but that would assume you at one time were in tlouch w/ wh.

I really do not like the suggestion of needing combat probes to find the citadels; mostly because the requirment to have an expanded probe launcher greatly limits ship choice for scouts. Yet directly warping to them seems too easy as well. A middle ground might be adding these large structures to the list of things that can be found by core probes. Small structures such as depots and tractors could stay in the realm of combats. It seems reasonable that probing something that is 25km across would be a bit different than probing the existing smaller objects.

They already said there is going to be different sizes and different options to refit and change the purpose of the structures and what they can do. All that is needed are tweeking of what you can and cant do in wormhole space.

And I am sure the docking mechanic will be addressed and the loot mechanic.

And i honestly think scanning to see how many people are docked and fittings etc is a good idea.. No free intel.. Making core probes find them, deff a good idea, but the idea of limiting the amount of moored caps to one seems like a good way to force cap ships online in whs to a more managable level. Have caps become an alliance asset for invasions and let the subcap rein supreme again. And the idea of the shield is dumb but docking or a shield is always gonna be there as you have no safe spot ever where you can stop and ****..

And with this new flexable code I dont see the need for wormholes to have there own structures make these work for what you need.