Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Imagine if all ships needed fuel.

All ships gain an additional fuel bay. Let's get to what that fuel actually is later.

Fuel consumption would be based on current speed x mass in a non-linear way. The faster you go, the less fuel-efficient you are.

As long as you have fuel, everything functions as before.

Your fuel usage increases when you modify your mass or speed (propmods, plates, hictor bubbles, higgs anchors, skirmish links, implants, you name it).

Bigger ships have more efficient engines, so that BSs don't use as much fuel as whole frigate fleets.

Your fuel consumption could not be decreased by external factors, such as webs.

In warp your fuel consumtion is about the same as when cruising at full speed without a propmod.

Once you have no fuel left, you move at 25% speed and warp at 50% warp speed. Propmods can no longer be activated.

If the numbers are tuned right, this could add an interesting barrier to the speed dominated meta we currently have. Yes, you could still go very fast, but not for a very long time. Depending on how fuel consumption is handeled in warp, it could also be an additional limiting factor for force-projection.

In general it would give bigger slower ships longer autonomies than smaller faster ships.

As to what that fuel could be, I'd consider heavy water, as it's not currently used by any other module.

Edit: It has been suggested that this would be more interesting if it only applied to propmod usage.

too lazy to look for the thread, but i'm pretty sure i posted it. It is a bad idea, gates are needed for interactivity.

I have the strange premonition that ill have to look for it, though

edit: yeah it was me, sorry. I'll just leave this here
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5068112#post5068112

-1 please no

EVE flight already doesn't feel like Firefly take-the-sky-from-me "freedom" due to the fact that we need to use gates to travel between stars. This makes EVE ships lack the more common sci-fi feeling of self-sufficiency and roaming explorer type of ****.

Making ships use fuel would absolutely trash all over any feeling of space-power that EVE ships have.

Unless we change the space-flight mechanics (warping and gates), fuel would ruin my experience.

This.

It's old idea and still a bad one, so no.

Ok so clearly you people think this is a bad idea...



Neither actually. The way I imagined it would be that small ships in a fleet would regularily have to refuel at, let's say a DST that accompanies the fleet. It's a defendable asset, EHP wise and wouldn't slow the fleet down (3.3AU/sec base speed). It even has a fleet hangar already. Or they could just take some fuel from larger ships, who will barely notice the small amount the small ship needs.



Ok, I see why you are saying that. Then what if only propmod activation required fuel? That would be more specific. Just make MWDs consume over 5 times more tthan ABs, so that they're less efficient and voilà...



Oh, and you clearly missremember Firefly:

- They run out of fuel in one episode.
- They would also need stargates to leave the system. All the show takes place in a single large system, most planets of which have been more or less terraformed. This is explained at the beginning of the Serinity movie.

i mean does it really do anything other then forcing someone to AFK drive a fleet oiler full of fuel?

AKA its annoying and adds nothing fun

I think that would be the straw that breaks the back of every last wormhole player.

It would also break the will of players in K space. Not all of them but I'm pretty sure a lot of people like the fact they don't have to deal with planning their roam around the maximum distance they can cross.

Sorry captain but that last warp you did burnt out all the fuel we had left so you will have to abandon the ship and pod your way home. Such good game play...

Couldn'T even read what the OP meant exactly. Personally I like the proposition of ships being dependent on other ships to harvest things to make other ships keep flying. The thought must've come to many players though.

I don't think there should be restrictive fuel restrictions on caps or subcaps. It just messes things up if the refueling must be done to early, and hardly impacts the gameplay in any meaningful way if the need to refuel occurs more infrequent. Then there are stations everywhere in k-space, and no ice in w-space. From a feeling, fuel should have something to do with ice and in that form it would bugger people that need fuel and can't source it locally in wormholes, with k-space being totally indifferent cause they're very likely to dock once a week.

It would be a kick in the nuts for afk-cloaky gameplay, but that one got nerfed hard enough already.

Like so many other ideas this sounds great at first.
And like so many others this one fails when you try to apply it game wide.
And so, like so many other ideas -1