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I do it just for the tears. It's always fun to watch people blow up and start raging in local. Sometimes it's also fun to take 50 catalysts and see if you can clean out an entire known mining system. I used to do that before retribution. It can sometimes be challenging, especially when they get angry enough the miners start camping the stations in insta-lock ships waiting for you to undock.

Fun times.

here's a useful thing to do when ganking:
Have 2 alts waiting at the wreck; not 1 alt.
1 alt opens the wreck and goes suspect to dump the contents of the wreck into either 1) a can (If the loot is massive) or 2) Into the fleet hangar of a deep space transport.
The alt in the noobship will go suspect and die; while the hauler can warp off without consequences.
It's apparently not considered an exploit because someone still loses a noobship (low value)

If you're unlucky enough to be on the near side of the herd you fit the criteria.

Also note, no matter what you do, if gankers really want to kill you, they can, and will do it. No amount of prep, tank, or tactics can save you. Even if you are using a friendly webber. All they need is a ship with quicker lock time than your webber, to hold you long enough for a fleet of headshot nado's to finish get their volley off.

You can do your best to avoid all the 'small time' guys, and make it much more costly for them to hit you, but if an organized group wants you dead, there is nothing you can do short of contracting the hauling to someone else, and never undocking.

That said, i may have made a habit out of baiting several 'small-time' gankers in various pipelines with various tanked haulers with +1b in the hold...then laughing when they only take 15% out of my shield. I also know exactly what it would take to pop my ship having done the tests. It hasn't failed yet, but i'm sure the more i push my luck, the sooner it will. Might be one reason i haven't been out in those ships much lately.

Also, never break your own rules for hauling expensive stuff, no matter what, if you are too lazy that day to do it right, don't do it until you are willing to put the effort in. The moment you let complacency win...you lose.

Depends on the ship used. When I was with code, we could often profit off of a freighter carrying 500 mill if we had a large enough fleet and the freighter was anti-tanked. For solo industrials the number of ships can range from one thrasher to 7 cats. In reality a tanked nereus or racial equivalent should be relatively safe with up to 120m in the cargo hold. An iteron probably shouldn't go above 20m though.

As for the OP. If you can haul it, so can the gankers. I still have an orca and freighter positioned in Uedama for loot scooping.

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This but in a different order for me :P

If you want to be safe. Just double wrap your stuff.

Create a courier contract to one of your alt then, recontract the contract to your hauler.

Ganking cost ISK to the gankers. They generally don't take the risk if they can't see what they could get.

With this technique there is a big chance that everything explodes.

Ganking is generally a business, so it's rare that they kill you if they scan plastic wrap, but you are not 100% safe, some can try anyway just to see what is inside.

Freckled redheads, tbh.