Player Features and Ideas Discussion

So basically it just does what the Corax does with more pshhh.
And has the same issues with PG, hence limited fitting options.
At least it is nimble, so you can align quickly while the other d3s are dancing around your oh-so-slowness.

Please tell me you at least went back to the art department for a facelift?

I don't mind the ugly factor. It fits with Caldari ship design in terms of being no-frills, aesthetically.

Pointing out the Corax brings up a great point. The Jackdaw really does just feel like an souped up Corax - more tank, less speed, same fitting issues. Mind you, I think if the Jackdaw had the powergrid to fit it the way people wish they could, it would be beyond OP. But the current levels are a bit extreme.

As it stands... it's an overpriced/undersized Drake with the apparent inability to fit the modules it seems to beg for. I see this thing as having 2 possible fits.

Rocket brawler: Too slow to close.
LML "sniper": Not enough PG to fit it.

Other than the massively inflated brick tank, there doesn't look like a reason.

Also, bait. I'm sure there will be plenty of poorly-informed PvP'ers that will see this thing as a nice, juicy target and a way to pad their killboard. I can see this thing getting a lot of people in trouble.

1136 with an MWD? I hope that's wrong

The charges should last you for around 20 minutes of permanently cycling your ASBs. Which is probably half a day of roaming in it.

Also, FW Losec should be stocked with this ****, not sure where you are around these days though.

Please tell me that 160 base speed is a typo. The machariel base speed is faster than this ship. When you say this ship will handle like a slow cruiser out of prop mode I think you left out the prefix "battle". This ship should be able to reach interdictor speeds while in prop mode, which would be in the 2300 range for a microwarpdrive fit.

Six midslots is also ridiculous. We already know how silly the hawk is with 5 mid slots.

This ship will surely be a menace in any sort of 1v1 brawling scenario, but people will also know that and blob it like crazy as it has no real means of escaping from a fight. I feel that this ship is the exact opposite of what a t3 is supposed to be. It is not flexible at all. It is a dumb shield brick, with potential for fleet action due to a large shield buffer. I was honestly expecting something a little more innovative for this ship.

Like many people I am disappointed with this current proposal for this ship, but I am not surprised with the design. The development cycle is relatively predictable with strong ships followed by weak ones and vice versa. Just make sure to tone down that ridiculous triple tank bonus that you guys proposed for the hecate at fanfest before it comes out.

It is a perfect Caldari ship. CCP please do not buff it. Players please stop whine or they will buff it. 10 effective missile is must have and ship is so nice, that everyone and his grandma will fly it.

Now serios... I am very, very much afraid what CCP will do with Hecate now... :(

Assuming the fitting space isn't as bad as I'm dreading it could be, the jackdaw would be hilarious with bantam backup.

Rails are locked at 55% kinetic and 45% thermal. Blaster are locked at 55% Thermal and 45% kinetic. Lasers are mostly EM with some thermal. So that covers 50% of Caldari, 50% of Gallente, and most of Amarr ships.

Also, Caldari have the best missile boats. Its just that they are also shield ships. And shields generally are less desirable than armor for pvp. So we (TEST) see less of them.

That being said, I am also glad to see the Jackdaw is not locked into kinetic. I see the Jackdaw being used similarly to the Confessor, since it gets all its damage bonuses from the base hull bonuses and not from its modes. Meanwhile its modes grant either a useful range bonus or two useful tanking bonuses. This should make it a tough nugget at close range. With 6 mid slots, an HP bonus, a resist bonus, and a sig bonus, it should be an active tanking beast.

Ima gonna rat with it.