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[hypothesis] Jove disease cause

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Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#21 - 2015-05-06 18:24:42 UTC
Vikarion wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
It would probably be reasonably easy to produce offspring clones with a wildly divergent gene line from the existing Jovian race.



Yes, it would, wouldn't it?


"For you, children, on your fifth birthday. May your next five years be as full of promise and hope, and may you one day walk with us as equals among the stars."
Idmei Sver, Society of Conscious Thought, on the fifth anniversary of the Capsuleer Era.

... yeah ...

Not sure what to make of Jovian child-rearing strategies, though.
Farlas Ibana
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2015-05-06 19:57:13 UTC
Ive said it before, and i will no doubt say it again :

more often than not, in any infected community, some individuals with a natural immunity to any given disease will exist. This often manifests itself in one of two ways -

1) Some individuals simply do not catch a given pathogen due to immune system response, or a genetic predilection to negate the effect of the pathogen.

2) Some individuals carry the disease without ever showing or developing symptoms, or not succumbing to the full effect of a pathogen that is fatal to other individuals.

What has happened to any Jove that were carriers without showing the signs of the disease? Were the cast out to DRIFT among the stars. . . . . .??
Silvox Lunae
Perkone
Caldari State
#23 - 2015-05-06 20:10:15 UTC
Farlas Ibana wrote:
Ive said it before, and i will no doubt say it again :

more often than not, in any infected community, some individuals with a natural immunity to any given disease will exist. This often manifests itself in one of two ways -

1) Some individuals simply do not catch a given pathogen due to immune system response, or a genetic predilection to negate the effect of the pathogen.

2) Some individuals carry the disease without ever showing or developing symptoms, or not succumbing to the full effect of a pathogen that is fatal to other individuals.

What has happened to any Jove that were carriers without showing the signs of the disease? Were the cast out to DRIFT among the stars. . . . . .??


Without voluntary communication of health records by the Jove, and comprehensive samples from both infected and supposed non-infected parties, this will only ever be speculation.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#24 - 2015-05-07 16:30:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
I have recently obtained Jove olfactory neurons through nasal biopsy combined with laser-capture microdissection to evaluate cause of disorder known as Jovian Disease. The conclusion after evaluation suggest genetic illness.

If you would want to know who was the donor, look at this picture.
The Golden Serpent
A Drunken Squirrels' Conspiracy for Revenge
#25 - 2015-05-10 07:55:26 UTC
Only God provides solace, being a capsuleer alone in the dark is horrible.

-:¦:-•:'":•.-:¦:-•* K H A N I D •-:¦:-•:''''*:•-:¦:-

Kirk Ernaga
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#26 - 2015-05-10 08:19:46 UTC
The Golden Serpent wrote:
Only God provides solace, being a capsuleer alone in the dark is horrible.

Speak for yourself, I quite like it given how drab heaven sounds. As to the topic at hand, I have found something curious about the jove diesease. The jove are obviously very scientifically advanced and well versed in scientific concepts, so then why would they fail at something so conceptually basic as rigorous testing given what was at stake?
Corraidhin Farsaidh
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2015-05-10 09:00:34 UTC
Kirk Ernaga wrote:
The Golden Serpent wrote:
Only God provides solace, being a capsuleer alone in the dark is horrible.

Speak for yourself, I quite like it given how drab heaven sounds. As to the topic at hand, I have found something curious about the jove diesease. The jove are obviously very scientifically advanced and well versed in scientific concepts, so then why would they fail at something so conceptually basic as rigorous testing given what was at stake?


Because the best test system in the universe can never be exactly the same as the real thing. There is always scope for unexpected results.
Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#28 - 2015-05-10 09:03:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Kirk Ernaga wrote:
The Golden Serpent wrote:
Only God provides solace, being a capsuleer alone in the dark is horrible.

Speak for yourself, I quite like it given how drab heaven sounds. As to the topic at hand, I have found something curious about the jove diesease. The jove are obviously very scientifically advanced and well versed in scientific concepts, so then why would they fail at something so conceptually basic as rigorous testing given what was at stake?


The way Jove were trying to find the cure and treat themselves suggest species chauvinism, that is why they are failing, the cause are themselves, but they were trying to stay themselves, its not scientific, its cultural issue they failed.
Kirk Ernaga
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#29 - 2015-05-10 19:32:05 UTC
Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:
Kirk Ernaga wrote:
The Golden Serpent wrote:
Only God provides solace, being a capsuleer alone in the dark is horrible.

Speak for yourself, I quite like it given how drab heaven sounds. As to the topic at hand, I have found something curious about the jove diesease. The jove are obviously very scientifically advanced and well versed in scientific concepts, so then why would they fail at something so conceptually basic as rigorous testing given what was at stake?


Because the best test system in the universe can never be exactly the same as the real thing. There is always scope for unexpected results.

Of course that is still a big, really big **** up. It reminds me of the kind of **** ups that happen when vaccines are rushed in development.
Radical Divinity
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2015-05-11 01:07:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Radical Divinity
Perhaps the methodology of reverse engineering their own gene pool is rife with difficulty and dangers. It might be said that they have seen the writing on the wall and if the Entosis documentations are any proof, then I would propose they are more concerned with preparing the younger civilizations for life without the Jovian presence. Indeed, when the Jove have gone there will be left a vast technological horde of artifacts that we may or may not be ready for. Look toward Sansha's Nation and CONCORD for the inherent dangers of technology falling into the hands of children.

A civilization prospers not only by the continuation of its people but of the ideology, memories and influence it possesses. The Four Empires, nudged by Jovian influence, seems to have been given something of their legacy. An inheritance, you might say. Foreign cultures which come in contact with one another inevitably influence the other. A look at our own current empires expresses this truth. Yet, with our lack of understanding of Jovian culture, as well as the individual Jove themselves, we could easily place the Entosis documents into alight that reads of manipulation on a cluster scale. They could have easily dominated our burgeoning civilizations before any even thought to reach the stars. Instead, they offered us tools that would challenge the status quo of each major power. They nudged in such a way that allowed agencies within each empire to make their own decisions.

Are the Empires the cure for the Jovian Disease? The individual Jove is not as important as the knowledge and ideals they possess. Maybe they simply felt it to be folly to once more exhaust themselves in the folding of proteins and engineering of the gene and found catharsis in their remote patronage. They have become the living embodiment of a cautionary moral tale of the dangers of technology.
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