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Nitris Denitrace
WeebFleet
Tsundere Triad
#21 - 2015-05-09 21:33:30 UTC
Aelyras Altol wrote:
> People get pissed that he joined goons and it might impact his work on w-space
> People whine like children when he attempts to disprove that as he wants to help w-space just like he did before

Why the **** does it matter what corp tag he has, what matters is what he does as the CSM, crying like children when he is attempting to do the very thing he was elected for is just stupid.

If you want to ***** and moan at least let him help first, if its clear that being in goons is affecting that then go right ahead, otherwise shut the **** up.



I suppose you'll want Brave to take Anna back as well?
Edward Harris
Inner Geek
#22 - 2015-05-09 21:34:47 UTC
Aelyras Altol wrote:
>
Why the **** does it matter what corp tag he has, what matters is what he does as the CSM, crying like children when he is attempting to do the very thing he was elected for is just stupid.


To clear things up for you - in meta-gaming online, ppl tend to not trust one another, especially after being previously scammed by said person. If you are not one of those and still trust known scammers, feel free to send me isk and I will double it for you.
Aelyras Altol
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2015-05-09 21:37:36 UTC
Nitris Denitrace wrote:
Aelyras Altol wrote:
> People get pissed that he joined goons and it might impact his work on w-space
> People whine like children when he attempts to disprove that as he wants to help w-space just like he did before

Why the **** does it matter what corp tag he has, what matters is what he does as the CSM, crying like children when he is attempting to do the very thing he was elected for is just stupid.

If you want to ***** and moan at least let him help first, if its clear that being in goons is affecting that then go right ahead, otherwise shut the **** up.



I suppose you'll want Brave to take Anna back as well?


Sorry, dont keep upto date with null stuff, no idea who this Anna person is.
KC Kamikaze
Blue-Fire
#24 - 2015-05-09 21:39:36 UTC
In my dealings with Corbexx he's been a good helpful guy.

Goons .. not so much, and since you are now part of the whole sorry to say it dude but guilty by association. The last thing I want is anymore goon **** in wspace. I'm disappointed with your eve career path Corbexx. Sad

You moved away from wormholes so i think you should step down and let someone else that's an active participant in wspace and its community represent us... and I do mean that in the nicest way possible.
Aelyras Altol
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2015-05-09 21:40:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Aelyras Altol
Edward Harris wrote:
Aelyras Altol wrote:
>
Why the **** does it matter what corp tag he has, what matters is what he does as the CSM, crying like children when he is attempting to do the very thing he was elected for is just stupid.


To clear things up for you - in meta-gaming online, ppl tend to not trust one another, especially after being previously scammed by said person. If you are not one of those and still trust known scammers, feel free to send me isk and I will double it for you.


Oh yes he obviously scammed all of us /sarcasm, he joined a group you dont like. Atleast attempt to let him do what we elected him for before burning him at the stake for the most evil sin of wanting to try something new. God forbid the next WH CSM wants to try out lowsec.
Nitris Denitrace
WeebFleet
Tsundere Triad
#26 - 2015-05-09 21:47:30 UTC
Aelyras Altol wrote:

Oh yes he obviously scammed all of us /sarcasm, he joined a group you dont like. Atleast attempt to let him do what we elected him for before burning him at the stake for the most evil sin of wanting to try something new. God forbid the next WH CSM wants to try out lowsec.



You're completely blind. Surely you don't think that he changed his mind and joined Goons in the 48 hours after his election?

You can't honestly tell me you think he did not make these moves purely out of selfishness. He knew where his loyalties laid and he didn't tell us, why? Cause he knew it would cost him the vote. He knew we would all vote him out, who knows how long he's been feeding intel to Goons, who knows what he's told them, who knows what he plans to do and yet you want to trust and defend this? You want him in the most op seccy channel in w-space?

Tell me, would you allow him to join your own corps private channel?


As far as I'm concerned, and as far as corbexx continues to make himself, corbexx is the enemy of w-space
CommanderCane
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#27 - 2015-05-09 21:49:04 UTC
KC Kamikaze wrote:
You moved away from wormholes so i think you should step down and let someone else that's an active participant in wspace and its community represent us... and I do mean that in the nicest way possible.


This is exactly the point.
If he'd had run as a null sec guy who really likes w-space and wants to represent it on the CSM and got elected, fine.
But he ran as w-space candidate and switched to goons. At this point he betrayed his constituence and lost the respect of most w-space entities. Shouldn't be a surprise if he's not welcomed with open arms into relevant channels then.
Shpongleye
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2015-05-09 21:51:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Shpongleye
Corbexx.. just gtfo already! We've already told you on several occations and we can't make it more clear that we dont want you as CSM. You're a fu*king goon now, get that into your head and stop harassing wormhole people. You withheld information just before your election and after you drop the shitbomb on the wormhole community... I thought it was a fuc*ing joke.. still do..
Aelyras Altol
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
#29 - 2015-05-09 21:53:06 UTC
Nitris Denitrace wrote:


You're completely blind. Surely you don't think that he changed his mind and joined Goons in the 48 hours after his election?

You can't honestly tell me you think he did not make these moves purely out of selfishness. He knew where his loyalties laid and he didn't tell us, why? Cause he knew it would cost him the vote. He knew we would all vote him out, who knows how long he's been feeding intel to Goons, who knows what he's told them, who knows what he plans to do and yet you want to trust and defend this? You want him in the most op seccy channel in w-space?

Tell me, would you allow him to join your own corps private channel?


As far as I'm concerned, and as far as corbexx continues to make himself, corbexx is the enemy of w-space


Well I am not going to attempt to argue my point all night if its apparent I am in the minority, just remember all the work he did in his first year for wormhole space when you are alienating our best chance for representation on the CSM.
KC Kamikaze
Blue-Fire
#30 - 2015-05-09 22:02:40 UTC
Noone is saying he didn't do great work. Compare it to RL ... you are on the board at a bank ... you leave and go to another bank yet you still want to be on the board of the old bank. Regardless of how good he has been it is no longer in our interests for him to remain on the board, even if his intentions are true ... which I think they are... but lets say maybe history has shown I'm not the best judge of character ... and I'm willing to concede the point. P
CommanderCane
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#31 - 2015-05-09 22:04:51 UTC
Aelyras Altol wrote:
Nitris Denitrace wrote:


You're completely blind. Surely you don't think that he changed his mind and joined Goons in the 48 hours after his election?

You can't honestly tell me you think he did not make these moves purely out of selfishness. He knew where his loyalties laid and he didn't tell us, why? Cause he knew it would cost him the vote. He knew we would all vote him out, who knows how long he's been feeding intel to Goons, who knows what he's told them, who knows what he plans to do and yet you want to trust and defend this? You want him in the most op seccy channel in w-space?

Tell me, would you allow him to join your own corps private channel?


As far as I'm concerned, and as far as corbexx continues to make himself, corbexx is the enemy of w-space


Well I am not going to attempt to argue my point all night if its apparent I am in the minority, just remember all the work he did in his first year for wormhole space when you are alienating our best chance for representation on the CSM.


I don't think anybody is really disputing what he did before. The point is the last election and his blatant vote-grabbing when he knew full well that he would ditch w-space for null.
Being a CSM for a specific space kind of implies that you actually live in said space. Having an alt or two in a w-space corp does not a wormholer make.
Otherwise I'm also a nullbear and an incurision runner. Maybe I should run for those two platforms next year, too.
Jay Joringer
13.
#32 - 2015-05-09 22:05:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Jay Joringer
Aelyras Altol wrote:
some stuff


All fair points.

However, I think you're missing a thing or two. This is all about his exclusion from a WH diplo channel - as in for diplomatic representatives of wormhole space. Let's ignore the whole WH thing for the moment. You'll find that any prolific diplomat will be a person of integrity. Now, I'm not saying that Corbexx lacks integrity BUT personally, if I were to stand for CSM under the pretence of representing the WH community while having the intention of turning my back on that community once voted in, I would be principled enough to admit to myself that I cheated people out of votes and stand down.

I'm not saying for a second that Corbexx isn't a big enough man to do that. I wouldn't accuse him of dishonest. Or not being interesting to talk to. Or having terrible grammar. Although I might hint at it quite strongly.

Either way, he shouldn't be in the WH diplo channel. He'll just have to find some other way of reaching out to the community, if that's what he wants to do. And if anyone will give him the time of day, of course.

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Shpongleye
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#33 - 2015-05-09 22:14:36 UTC
Nitris Denitrace wrote:
Aelyras Altol wrote:

Oh yes he obviously scammed all of us /sarcasm, he joined a group you dont like. Atleast attempt to let him do what we elected him for before burning him at the stake for the most evil sin of wanting to try something new. God forbid the next WH CSM wants to try out lowsec.



You're completely blind. Surely you don't think that he changed his mind and joined Goons in the 48 hours after his election?

You can't honestly tell me you think he did not make these moves purely out of selfishness. He knew where his loyalties laid and he didn't tell us, why? Cause he knew it would cost him the vote. He knew we would all vote him out, who knows how long he's been feeding intel to Goons, who knows what he's told them, who knows what he plans to do and yet you want to trust and defend this? You want him in the most op seccy channel in w-space?

Tell me, would you allow him to join your own corps private channel?


As far as I'm concerned, and as far as corbexx continues to make himself, corbexx is the enemy of w-space


This!
Dagoth Fett
Whole Squid
#34 - 2015-05-09 23:07:16 UTC
You guys are insane. Corbexx is a resource, a way to have your voice heard by CCP.

If you can't get over yourselves enough to take advantage of this opportunity, you deserve to be ignored.

Vote him out next year if your e-honor demands it. For now, use him.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#35 - 2015-05-09 23:12:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Zappity
I don't like what corbexx did but he has been (and appears to still be) a good wh CSM. Blocking him is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Alundil
Rolled Out
#36 - 2015-05-09 23:14:04 UTC
ITT - people clearly suffering from cognitive disabilities and who most likely struggle with concepts and activities as diverse as:

walking while chewing bubble gum
thinking about one thing while working on another thing
keeping two distinct thoughts alive in their mind simultaneously
having more than one goal
having interests in more than one topic/activity/concept at a time
separating game 'metaplay' from actual douchiness


Alec Trebec, "A digital place where discourse typically fails , horribly, to rise above the level of sperge and retardation."
Contestant, "What is an Eve Online forum?"

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Shilalasar
Dead Sky Inc.
#37 - 2015-05-09 23:45:41 UTC
KC Kamikaze wrote:
Noone is saying he didn't do great work. Compare it to RL ... you are on the board at a bank ... you leave and go to another bank yet you still want to be on the board of the old bank.


Pretty much this. He might still be a good CSM member with wormholes in his heart but he is no longer working for "awesome wormholeguys inc", but for "we care only about ourselves and *** you all"-corporation, so why should he be in that diplochannel? There are enough other means and channels to get in or keep contact.

Jay Joringer wrote:
You'll find that any prolific diplomat will be a person of integrity.


While I do not know any reallife diplomats, have you met any of the goons diplos? Who are really good at what they do and the entire department was built by someone working with reallife diplomats on a dayly basis. Pretty sure integrity is not on that jobdescription.

Also that little bee defending corbexx with every post he makes is so cute, do you get those just for joining?

Big thanks guys, the wormholeforums were so boring for so long but the past few days brought all the good stuff.
Eanok
POS Party
Ember Sands
#38 - 2015-05-10 00:05:20 UTC
Wow so much hostility. Rightfully so I guess. Although his intentions could truly be genuine it's too hard to get over the deception. Is the wormhole community screwed as far as having a voice? I mean, that clown wingspans first major question to people on the forums was about a mechanic, that if removed, would benifit his play style the most. Agenda much? Are we screwed?
Dagoth Fett
Whole Squid
#39 - 2015-05-10 00:10:24 UTC
Shilalasar wrote:

Also that little bee defending corbexx with every post he makes is so cute, do you get those just for joining?


If you're talking about me you're either impressively stupid or functionally illiterate. I'm not defending him, I'm telling you to be pragmatic about it. Some of you get it (see the "how to increase PVP in C5 and C6" thread that was prompted by dialog between Corbexx and Hidden), while others of you are sitting around in a circle seeing who can cry the loudest.

I suppose you could also be jammed so far up your own ass that you can't see past the corp ticker. Should I switch to an NPC alt?
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#40 - 2015-05-10 00:19:55 UTC
Dagoth Fett wrote:
You guys are insane. Corbexx is a resource, a way to have your voice heard by CCP.

If you can't get over yourselves enough to take advantage of this opportunity, you deserve to be ignored.

Vote him out next year if your e-honor demands it. For now, use him.

As much as it pains me to say; this guy is right.

Really sad to see the little entitled blue-circle that w-space culture is turning into these days.

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