Missions & Complexes

Hello
I have been playing Eve for more than a year and i have just started training level 4 missions.
I have bought a raven with arbalest cruise missiles.
The world collide is awfully difficult and i lost my ship quickly even for the damsel in distress
Which skills do you advice me in priority?

i have got
battleship skill level 3
cruise missiles skills level 4
shield management level 4

Do you think raven is a good ship?

I detect a failfit.

To be fair to OP, it is most likely more than just failfit. It is more likely to be combination of failfit and failure of tactics (tactifail).

The problem of Raven is to target at short range with numerous frigates and battleships
With regard to world collide, in the second pocket, sansha fregates and battleships were very hard to hit , many ships within about 20 kilometers from me

One of my older raven fits:

6x cruise missile

1x lmjd
2x sensor booster (you can put targeting range script if you like to be further from the rats)
1x x-large shield booster
2x shield boost amplifier (or you can do combination of resists)

4x bcu
1x co-processor
(or you can do combination of dc and bcu, up to you)

3x rigor rigs
or
2x rigor and 1x ccc
or
2x rigor and 1x flare

As you can see this fit has some room for flexibility.

i have just bought a large mcro jump drive yesterday and i hope it will help me

A basic list of common core skills that are good for many things.
For the most part these are listed in the order they would appear in the market window not in an order of how they should be trained, or even if you need to train them.

I agree with the others please post your fit so we can see what you are flying.


**** Basics **** - good skills for every pilot
Advanced Weapons Upgrades - engineering
Hull Upgrades -armor
Mechanics - armor
CPU Management - engineering
Capacitor Management - engineering
Capacitor Systems Operation - engineering
Power Grid Management - engineering
Weapons Upgrades - engineering


**** Armor **** - if you fly armor tanked ships
Armor Layering
Armor Resistance Phasing
EM Armor Compensation
Explosive Armor Compensation
Kinetic Armor Compensation
Themic Armor Compensation
Repair Systems

**** Drones **** - required for drones pilots, good to have for everyone else
Drones
Drone Avionics
Drone Durability
Drone Interfacing
Drone Navigation
Drone Sharpshooting
Light Drone Operation
Medium Drone Operation
Heavy Drone Operation

**** Optional Drones Skills ****
Sentry Drone Interfacing
Amarr Drone Specialization
Caldari Drone Specialization
Gallente Drone Specialization
Minmatar Drone Specialization
Repair Drone Operation
Salvage Drone Operation - needed to use slavage drones
Mining Drone Operation - needed to use mining drones
Advanced Drone Avionics

**** Electronic Systems ****
Many of these skills can be considered requirements but which ones you need depend on the ships you fly and what you want to do in the game. Please ask which skills may be best for you.

**** Engineering **** - skills for everyone
Advanced Weapons Upgrades
Electronics Upgrades
Energy Grid Upgrades
Nanite Operation - for armor tank pilots or those that use nanite paste
Thermodynamics

**** Gunnery **** - for those using turret based weapons only
Gunnery
Controlled Bursts
Motion Prediction
Rapid Firing
Sharpshooter
Surgical Strike
Trajectory Analysis
Specialization skills as needed ask for assistance on the ones you will need

**** Missiles **** - for those using missiles, rockets or torpedoes only
Missile Bombardment
Missile Launcher Operation
Missile Projection
Rapid Launch
Target Navigation Prediction
Warhead Upgrades
Specialization skills as needed ask for assistance for which may be best for you

**** Navigation **** - good for everyone, considered requirements for PvP
Acceleration Control
Afterburner
Evasive Maneuvering
Fuel Conservation
High Speed Maneuvering
Navigation
Warp Drive Operation

**** Neural Enhancement ****
Cybernetics - needed for implants and skill hardwires
Infomorph Psychology - needed for jump clones

**** Resource Processing ****
Primarily this whole tree is for those in mining and manufacturing
If you are interested in this area ask about the skills needed

**** Rigging **** - good for everyone
Armor Rigging
Astronautic Rigging
Jury Rigging
Shield Rigging
Specialization skills as needed ask for assistance on which may help you

**** Shields **** - if you fly sheild tanked ships
EM Shield Compensation
Explosive Shield Compensation
Kinetic Shield Compensation
Shield Compensation
Shield Management
Shield Operation
Shield Upgrades
Tactical Shield Manipulation
Thermic Shield Compensation

**** Social ****
Connections
Fast Talk
Social
Optional
Criminal Connections
Diplomacy
Negotiation
Distribution Connections - distribution missions
Mining Connections - mining missions
Security Connections - security mission

**** Spaceship Command ****
Spaceship Command
All others train as needed

**** Targeting ****
Long Range Targeting
Signature Analysis
Target Management
Advanced Target Management - as needed to max out your ships capability
Compensation skills as needed

thank you for your answer
i have trained the two skills until level 5 missile bombardment and missiles projection to increase the range
i can target until 90 km range

Use sensor booster or sensor booster+targeting range script or sensor amplifier or use any combination of them.

What's with this MJD crap? L4s in a stock Raven are still cake... period. The only time the MJD could be remotely useful is Worlds Collide, second room with the 2 scramming elite frigates.

Raven (Moderate Cost, Proper Skills, Entry Level L4)

HIGH
6x Cruise Missile Launchers (T2 preferably, 'Arbalest' is you must) use rat-specific T1 missiles)

MID
100MN Afterburner
XL Shield Booster II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
2x Active Hardeners (missions specific)
Heavy Cap Booster w/ 800 charges
Target Painter

LOW
4x Ballistic Control Unit II
Damage Control II

RIGS
2x Large Anti-EM Rig
1x Large Anti-Thermal Rig

CARGO
10-15 Cap charges
Mission-specific missiles
Mission-specific Light Drones

Notes:
1. If the missions rats are going to do EM damage, then swap out the TP for an addition, EM Ward (passive) to mitigate the additional shield damage.
2. For Worlds Collide, swap out the 100MN AB for an MJD to clear the distance BEFORE you get warp scrammed by the elite frigs.
3. I found that bringing a couple medium drones really helped in missions where there were lots of Cruiser rats.
4. If you have capacitor/fitting issues, you are not prepared to run many L4 missions... so decline the ones that you can't handle (Worlds Collide being chief among them).
5. The rigs as suggested are designed for pure mitigation of your most dangerous damage types. If you find that you are not struggling to tank the incoming damage, you may choose to swap 1 of the Anti-EM rigs, or that and the Anti-Thermal rig, in favor of a Large Bay Loading Accelerator (Increased Rate of Fire) and/or a Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst (better damage to Cruisers, Battlecruisers and elite Cruisers). Do this only after you've run all manner of missions and determined that you can tank them fine.

GENERAL ADVICE
1. Go here http://eve-survival.org/wikka.php?wakka=MissionReportsLevel4 and read about the missions before you do them. The missions reports provide complete breakdowns of what you should do and what to expect.
2. Decline ALL (I repeat, ALL) missions against other empire factions (i.e. Gallente, Amarr, Caldari, Minmatar). It will wreck your standing... you don't want that to happen.
3. I did L4 missions with pretty much the above fit, minus the Cap Booster. I never struggled to tank and often only needed to pulse the shield booster until I could get out of range of the rate battleships with the AB. Only Guristas could hit me at my longer engagement ranges. If you find that you're not using the cap booster, lose it and replace with any of the following: additional Target Painter or additional passive shield ward.