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any way to block trade windows?

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Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#21 - 2015-05-09 07:21:35 UTC
Zappity wrote:
Does CSPA affect trades?

No, there's no CSPA on trades.

I agree that blocking someone should block trades also. Would be an elegant solution to what the OP experienced.
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#22 - 2015-05-09 07:46:31 UTC
This is a clear case of harassment.
You can petition when this happens and it will usually be dealt with swiftly.

No need to think twice about it.
Same goes with contracts.
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No Lube ForU
Doomheim
#23 - 2015-05-09 08:37:00 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
A scammer complaining about harassmentShocked



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Joan Miles
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2015-05-09 08:41:19 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
A scammer complaining about harassmentShocked

That is cute and unique indeed!

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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#25 - 2015-05-09 08:47:00 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Otso Bakarti wrote:
Seriously? You can't see the harassment in this? That says a lot. Recalibrate for a better understanding, chil'en.
This is really creepy.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion without needing to recalibrate to a single view. it's a game, not a police state.

So no, I don't see harassment in something the OP could have so easily taken control of.

I see a hugely annoying use of a mechanic, but the OP could have just undocked and avoided it.

Doesn't seem very harassing to me.

It's harassment.
Read:

The player blocked the person, showing no interest in communication.
The blocked player keeps repwating something that avoids the block.
The player can create and remove a trade window from the victim's client at will.
The victim has no way of dealing with that without leaving.

And here's the thing: If you already blocked that person and made it clear that way,
and the person keeps spamming you without a way of dealing with it,
then that's not letigimate gameplay.

*Leaving* is not an option, because this isn't about gameplay.

It's harassment.
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Yossarian Toralen
M and M Enterpises
#26 - 2015-05-09 09:28:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Yossarian Toralen
The OP was innocently just sitting in Jita minding his own business and low and behold someone starting spamming trades, this would be a minor case of harassment.

The OP scams someone and they spam them with trades until they cry a bit on the forums, not in any way harassment.
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#27 - 2015-05-09 09:34:48 UTC
There is no difference in the case between scammers and non-scammers.

Any personal feelings are completely irrelevant.
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Otso Bakarti
Doomheim
#28 - 2015-05-09 14:01:08 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Otso Bakarti wrote:
Seriously? You can't see the harassment in this? That says a lot. Recalibrate for a better understanding, chil'en.
This is really creepy.

Everyone's entitled to their opinion without needing to recalibrate to a single view. it's a game, not a police state.

So no, I don't see harassment in something the OP could have so easily taken control of.

I see a hugely annoying use of a mechanic, but the OP could have just undocked and avoided it.

Doesn't seem very harassing to me.

I'm sorry. Though I can bend over backwards and use duct tape, a coat hanger and book of matches to McGuyver my way around stuff people do, when at all possible I'd rather the powers that be curb them for me. I didn't exactly serve in the military for someone's right to be a d!ck.

There just isn't anything that can be said!
Tara'Quoya Rax
Atlantis Asteria
#29 - 2015-05-09 15:30:23 UTC
This is a troll thread right?
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#30 - 2015-05-09 15:38:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Otso Bakarti wrote:
I didn't exactly serve in the military for someone's right to be a d!ck.

Who's military? Everyone's?

RL has nothing to do with what we do in a video game. If your saying you didn't serve in the military for someone's right to play a video game how they would like to, I'm guessing that whatever country you are from, in some way you probably did, though there were many more important reasons you laid your life on the line; and everyone you served for should be thankful for that.

As to the first bit, since we were discussing my opinion, if you'd rather the powers that be curb them for you, that's not going to happen. Sorry. I'll happily consider a good argument, but authority doesn't mean much on its own.
Hevymetal
POT Corp
#31 - 2015-05-09 17:30:28 UTC
Tara'Quoya Rax wrote:
This is a troll thread right?


Indeed, the pot calling the kettle black.
Ohemgeez MyNameWontFi
Space Heroes In Training
#32 - 2015-05-10 09:54:28 UTC
Otso Bakarti wrote:

I'm sorry. Though I can bend over backwards and use duct tape, a coat hanger and book of matches to McGuyver my way around stuff people do, when at all possible I'd rather the powers that be curb them for me. I didn't exactly serve in the military for someone's right to be a d!ck.


relax dude! what's your service to your country got to do with a video game? What?
Ned Haugen
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#33 - 2015-05-10 12:47:39 UTC
I didn't become a plumber to have yous guys gum up the works in my viddeya games. Where's a shutoff valve when ya need one, amirite?
Yossarian Toralen
M and M Enterpises
#34 - 2015-05-10 14:21:58 UTC
Eve Solecist wrote:
There is no difference in the case between scammers and non-scammers.

Any personal feelings are completely irrelevant.


The OP is crying hard enough to come to the forum, all aspects need to be considered.
Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#35 - 2015-05-10 14:30:23 UTC
Zappity wrote:
Blocking a character should also block trades I think. Moving to another station isn't a very good solution if you are a trader sitting in Jita 4-4.

Does CSPA affect trades?

Its also not a good option if you are at war, and a fleet is waiting for you. If fact, undocking at Jita 4-4 is always an adventure. Doing something to force a player to undock is a form of blackmail.

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Vincent Athena
Photosynth
#36 - 2015-05-10 14:33:16 UTC
Ohemgeez MyNameWontFi wrote:
Otso Bakarti wrote:

I'm sorry. Though I can bend over backwards and use duct tape, a coat hanger and book of matches to McGuyver my way around stuff people do, when at all possible I'd rather the powers that be curb them for me. I didn't exactly serve in the military for someone's right to be a d!ck.


relax dude! what's your service to your country got to do with a video game? What?


Nothing. It has to do with the people who play the video game. Those are real people in the real world. Cannot you tell the difference?

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admiral root
Red Galaxy
#37 - 2015-05-10 14:51:33 UTC
d0cTeR9 wrote:
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#38 - 2015-05-10 14:53:02 UTC
Otso Bakarti wrote:

I didn't exactly serve in the military for someone's right to be a d!ck.


Depends what military you serve in.

If it's the U.S. then that's exactly what rights you are expected to fight for. Your govt wants every country in the world to have their citizens living under a constitution that guarantees the right to be a **** if they want to be.

Some mislabel this as freedom.

Mr Epeen Cool
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#39 - 2015-05-10 17:50:39 UTC
Yossarian Toralen wrote:
The OP was innocently just sitting in Jita minding his own business and low and behold someone starting spamming trades, this would be a minor case of harassment.

The OP scams someone and they spam them with trades until they cry a bit on the forums, not in any way harassment.


Scamming has been declared a legitimate form of play in game by CCP.

It is not clear that this [spamming trade windows] is a legitimate form of game play at all. And it is quite often the case that people who make and enforce the rules do not condone rule breaking after another person did something that was annoying, but not rule breaking. Or to make it concrete. Even if the OP did scam the trade window spammer, scamming is not against the rules. But if CCP considers trade window spamming against the rules, irrespective of the target being one who just scammed the trade window spammer, the trade window spammer may get "injury" (a warning from CCP, possibly a ban if he's done this before) to his "insult" (being scammed).

I'd be very careful with this kind of attitude, IMO.

Oh, and situation ethics noted. Roll

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Cristl
#40 - 2015-05-10 19:54:42 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:

How is it harassment?
Annoying yes, but harassment?


Back to school for you. I'll just give a quick quote from the Merriam-Webster dictionary:

"to annoy or bother (someone) in a constant or repeated way"

Which exactly fits the OP.

Convo-blocking someone should obviously block trade windows too.
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