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We cannot trust the empires.

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Ashterothi
The Order of Thelemic Ascension
The Invited
#1 - 2015-05-08 21:34:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Ashterothi
My fellow Empyreans. It is time for an accounting of actions by the DED and several organizations within the Empires. It would appear that there is a large multi-organizational conspiracy to disrupt Empyreans, and in doing so endanger all of known space.

As everyone by now must be aware, the Drifter threat is real, and imminent. What we do not know is how long this threat has been brewing, but due to recent events we can infer some fairly striking results.

Our first clue is Thera itself. SOE were found to be inhabiting once unknown space that was only exposed to us after the shattering that was likely caused by the super-luminal event now known as Caroline Star. While Santimona Sarpati has been 'questioned' in regards to SOE presence in Thera, after almost 3 months, and in spite of increased urgency from the Drifter threat, CONCORD has not made further motions, or released any additional information. Reference 1

Secondly, SOE recently produced three new ships with the assistance of various organizations including Propel Dynamics. While early successes of Propel include the warp drives we use, they have been struggling to live up to expectations in recent years. However, It is clear that the technology used in the Nestor class battleship, Stratios class cruiser, and Astero class frigate is unlike that used on previous ships. Likely SOE has been working with Propel to develop new technology. One of the tell-tale sines is the spatial disturbance inside the ring of the ships drive. This same spatial disturbance has been seen propelling the Drifter battleships.

Thirdly it is clear the DED does not have Empyreans best interest in mind. During Drifter attack on Yulai, it was noted that no CONCORD mobilized to support the Empyrean defense of the their home station. And after the Drifters were repelled, and the signal no longer disrupted, DED failed to continue to broadcast the findings of the Drifter autopsies. It has been over a week and we still have no further information from that meeting. It is almost as if DED was responsible for the disruption of the broadcast, more then the Drifters. Reference 3. I was present at the defense of Yulai and saw no response from DED and in fact witnessed CONCORD retaliated on Empyreans for violations.

Simularly, we recently were contacted by long lost Hilen Tukoss, who has demonstrated a loyalty to Empyreans in the past. In his message he warns of a Drifter threat beyond that which we have previously imagined. Reference 4. The brave members of SCOPE released this information to us in spite of threats from DED. Shortly after this broadcast we were made aware that CONCORD has 'detained both Gaunia Octeyncaere, Production Manager for The Scope and Lina Ambre, Correspondant for The Scope for questioning under Section 6 of the Interstellar Corporate Espionage Act.' Reference 5. It is clear that DED is clearly hiding information, and brings into question why they continue to refuse to elevate the threat levels of the Drifter menace in spite of their collosal destructive powers used against Empyreans.

Finally, SOE, and Propel, along with several other organizations met with CONCORDS Inner Circle to discuss for a short notice "Wormhole Summit" reference 6. While it is once believed that this was to discuss the "new sleeper behavior" reported earlier, in light of new information it is fair to propose that SOE, and Propel knew about the Circadian seekers, and the Drifter technology long ago, and that this summit was a briefing, or discussion of things that they still refuse to let us know about.

We Empyreans can no longer sit idle and allow these entities to endanger our existence, and the very lives of all those that the Drifters threaten. As we know the Amarr worlds are now under direct threat by these Drifters. This is no longer simply an Empyrean problem, this is everyone's problem.

I call upon the Empyreans to rise up and let it be know that this is unacceptable, we must be made aware of the true scope of this new threat. I also call upon the Throne worlds. I know we have had our differences in the past, but this threat is greater then our petty rivalries. Use your authority to force the DED to expose what they know, and expose the true motives of the Sisters of EVE.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#2 - 2015-05-08 21:38:54 UTC
It is clear from this thread that it is CONCORD that you have no trust in, not the empires. The empires are not to blame for CONCORD's activities. CONCORD does not represent the empires, and it hasn't for a long time.
Ashterothi
The Order of Thelemic Ascension
The Invited
#3 - 2015-05-08 21:42:43 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
It is clear from this thread that it is CONCORD that you have no trust in, not the empires. The empires are not to blame for CONCORD's activities. CONCORD does not represent the empires, and it hasn't for a long time.


The Empires grant CONCORD their authority. And also house several other organizations that seem to be involved in this. If they wish to be upfront, they should side with us and assist in the exposing of the darkness they are hiding.

Although I fight for the Federation, there are questions throughout. It is time for the Empires to prove not only their trustworthiness to Empyreans, but their loyalty to the safety of their citizens.
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#4 - 2015-05-08 21:42:56 UTC
It is great to see more voices and evidence against DED. The empires may play a role in this but the majority of the blame is still to be placed on CONCORD themselves. Like many other authorities that claim to serve the people they have been corrupted and now serve themselves.

❤️️💛💚💙💜

Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#5 - 2015-05-08 21:44:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
Ashterothi wrote:
Samira Kernher wrote:
It is clear from this thread that it is CONCORD that you have no trust in, not the empires. The empires are not to blame for CONCORD's activities. CONCORD does not represent the empires, and it hasn't for a long time.


The Empires grant CONCORD their authority. And also house several other organizations that seem to be involved in this. If they wish to be upfront, they should side with us and assist in the exposing of the darkness they are hiding.

Although I fight for the Federation, there are questions throughout. It is time for the Empires to prove not only their trustworthiness to Empyreans, but their loyalty to the safety of their citizens.


It is not empires that need to prove their trustworthiness to empyreans, it is the empyreans that need to prove our trustworthiness to the empires. We are not their betters.

CONCORD is not accountable to the empires any longer. CONCORD today acts almost entirely independently, without any notification to or permission from the empires. This has been made clear several times over the last decade.
Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#6 - 2015-05-08 21:47:04 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
It is great to see more voices and evidence against DED. The empires may play a role in this but the majority of the blame is still to be placed on CONCORD themselves. Like many other authorities that claim to serve the people they have been corrupted and now serve themselves.

Did CONCORD pay you for your autopsy report or did you serve them for yourself?
Anyanka Funk
Doomheim
#7 - 2015-05-08 21:47:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Anyanka Funk
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Aelisha
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#8 - 2015-05-08 21:50:23 UTC
I agree with your assessment of CONCORD and the DED. For too long have they endangered others while playing mother and father to all the people of the cluster while time and time again showing their inability to defend themselves.

The only power CONCORD has is their legislated dominance of capsuleers through invasive and immoral interference in our control interfaces and cloning contracts. These negligent overlords only have power over capsuleers at this stage, with the empires fearing the 'fifth party' stepping in on the side of a foe than the establishment standing alone.

Long story short, the empires and independent capsuleer entities of the outer regions should be ruling their local holdings, not kow towing to a sickened and ailing beast that is holding us capsuleers back from economic and political prominence.

CEO of the Achura-Waschi Exchange

Intaki Reborn

Independent Capsuleer

Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#9 - 2015-05-08 21:52:08 UTC
It has become glaringly obvious that not only the Sisters of EVE, but our own law enforcement has become distant from us; we are being denied crucial information on the Vigilant Tyrannos forces - information that could prove essential to future contact with them.

In a time such as this, I cannot lend trust to any of the Empire factions; we are being deliberately kept in the dark. At this time, the only sources I would place confidence in are the faction I was born into, and the Jove Directorate.

Sad, isn't it: how it has become easier to confide in the most secretive groups in the cluster than those we live among.

I hope, for the sake of the cluster, that the Sisters of EVE and the Directive Enforcement Division come to their senses on this urgent matter before it is too late.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#10 - 2015-05-08 21:53:02 UTC
Aelisha wrote:
I agree with your assessment of CONCORD and the DED. For too long have they endangered others while playing mother and father to all the people of the cluster while time and time again showing their inability to defend themselves.

The only power CONCORD has is their legislated dominance of capsuleers through invasive and immoral interference in our control interfaces and cloning contracts. These negligent overlords only have power over capsuleers at this stage, with the empires fearing the 'fifth party' stepping in on the side of a foe than the establishment standing alone.

Long story short, the empires and independent capsuleer entities of the outer regions should be ruling their local holdings, not kow towing to a sickened and ailing beast that is holding us capsuleers back from economic and political prominence.


Holding capsuleers back is what CONCORD should be doing, and it has only failed in this by being far too lax.
Frenjo Borkstar
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-05-08 21:54:19 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
It is great to see more voices and evidence against DED. The empires may play a role in this but the majority of the blame is still to be placed on CONCORD themselves. Like many other authorities that claim to serve the people they have been corrupted and now serve themselves.


Now, if only we had more people like this in the world. I have been saying for WEEKS that CONCORD and the DED cannot be trusted, and were my claims unfounded? No.

They have been hiding things from us, and they've known about these Seekers and Drifters for ages. I call for an immediate vote of no confidence in the DED and the Inner Circle, and propose that emergency action be taken to sort out this mess that we call politics.

Viriel,

Borkstar Laboratories,

The Borkstar Initiative.

Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#12 - 2015-05-08 21:56:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Mizhir
Anyanka Funk wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
It is great to see more voices and evidence against DED. The empires may play a role in this but the majority of the blame is still to be placed on CONCORD themselves. Like many other authorities that claim to serve the people they have been corrupted and now serve themselves.

Did CONCORD pay you for your autopsy report or did you serve them for yourself?


They did not pay anything for it. The entire process of the Autopsy was performed by us and funded by our own pockets. It was submitted to them as an attempt to spread awareness about the research and to make DED act on the drifter threat. That was before it became apparant to me that they only serve themselves.

To make it all worse. They were more concerned about my previous agressions with capsuleers than the actual Yulai attack as they were chasing me when I tried to defend the station. Clearly they have lost touch with reality.

❤️️💛💚💙💜

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#13 - 2015-05-08 22:04:24 UTC
The Corporation is mother, the Corporation is father.

As Samira said, it's not the Empires that need to prove themselves to us, it is us that have singularly failed to prove ourselves to the Empires, for the most parts. We are fracted, divisive, greedy and violent. We are starships with psychopathies. We bring death as a reflex. Despite being granted lifespans that place us ahead of the richest Holders, we have all the constancy and loyalty of a biting fish in a bathtub.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Sahriah BloodStone
No.Mercy
Triumvirate.
#14 - 2015-05-08 22:09:57 UTC
Frenjo Borkstar wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
It is great to see more voices and evidence against DED. The empires may play a role in this but the majority of the blame is still to be placed on CONCORD themselves. Like many other authorities that claim to serve the people they have been corrupted and now serve themselves.


Now, if only we had more people like this in the world. I have been saying for WEEKS that CONCORD and the DED cannot be trusted, and were my claims unfounded? No.

They have been hiding things from us, and they've known about these Seekers and Drifters for ages. I call for an immediate vote of no confidence in the DED and the Inner Circle, and propose that emergency action be taken to sort out this mess that we call politics.


Agreed. From the evidence presented and the events of the last few months i believe it is clear now that CONCORD and the DED cannot be trusted with the security of New Eden.

It is seeming more and more possible that both entities are compromised from within and are attempting to limit our influence and reaction times to this imminent attack.

Sahriah Bloodstone

No.Mercy // Triumvirate

"Never underestimate your enemy or disrespect its abilities. If you do, you shall become the hunted "

Ashterothi
The Order of Thelemic Ascension
The Invited
#15 - 2015-05-08 22:11:26 UTC
The current threat is against Empyreans and the Amarr. Instead of bickering about who should prove themselves to whom, we should be standing together, questioning those who endanger us all.
General Stargazer
The Bastards
Sedition.
#16 - 2015-05-08 22:16:45 UTC
I agree with this assessment fully as well. There are too many unanswered questions for meetings that have clearly taken place and been reported by the press at large on without being passed on to the rest of the cluster.

While I appreciate a degree of discretion with some threats is required to fully access situations, its clear that for some time now that there is an imminent threat to everyone, of all regions of space. If CONCORD or the Empires are holding back critical information from us all and its causing considerable loss of life.. in fact.. not even that, what if the threat that we are all seeing and CONCORD and the empires believe to not be a threat are wrongly accessed and it comes to light too late. We aren't talking a considerable loss of life, we are considering extinction level threats.

To receive a transmission like the one we have just seen from Hilen Tukoss, then to make an announcement commenting on the release of the footage, rather than the content, suggests that its nothing unexpected. To believe its nothing unexpected seems to indicate knowledge of the bigger picture. The two scope workers being detained should be heralded for their courage to release the footage, to allow us to prepare, to allow us to help. We need to know.
Jvpiter
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#17 - 2015-05-08 22:24:34 UTC


Yes, let us raise the pitchforks against CONCORD. I am sure the prices of minerals and other goods won't change in any drastic way if CONCORD disappeared tomorrow.


The solution, if there is one, must include CONCORD not exclude it.


And distrusting the Empires? Start a new life in K-space then.


Call me Joe.

Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#18 - 2015-05-08 22:25:17 UTC
As usual, Lt. Kernher is the only voice of reason in this thread.

CONCORD and the DED exist to keep order in the cluster by preventing full-scale war between the empires and regulating international trade and law. However, one of their most important tasks it to regulate us, which they already do a poor enough job at. The only people who want more freedom for capsuleers are those that want to abuse those freedoms, or short-sighted fools like the OP.

For the billionth time, capsuleers do not need more freedom or power. Capsuleers on the whole are stupid, spoiled, self-centered glorified ship CPUs that could not make a moral judgement to save their next clone. Anyone who speaks as though we should have more rights than any baseliner is an utter idiot.

So please, stop being idiots. Just this once. For me?

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu

Aldrith Shutaq
Atash e Sarum Vanguard
#19 - 2015-05-08 22:25:54 UTC
::double post::

Aldrith Ter'neth Shutaq Newelle

Fleet Captain of the Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris

Divine Commodore of the 24th Imperial Crusade

Lord Consort of Lady Mitara Newelle, Champion of House Sarum and Holder of Damnidios Para'nashu

Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#20 - 2015-05-08 22:29:26 UTC
Aldrith Shutaq wrote:

For the billionth time, capsuleers do not need more freedom or power. Capsuleers on the whole are stupid, spoiled, self-centered glorified ship CPUs that could not make a moral judgement to save their next clone. Anyone who speaks as though we should have more rights than any baseliner is an utter idiot.

So please, stop being idiots. Just this once. For me?

Tiberious? You look an awful lot like Aldrith. New hair conditioner?
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