Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I too like to haul around 10s and 20s of billions in freighters in perfect safety!! I endorse this product in full!!

Space trucks? Not really.
Container ships and coastal freighters sound a better analogy, and how often do they sport the latest military hardware?

How about pirate faction hauling ships?

Give them a bit of defense and offense capabilities, since they would (lore wise) be used in low and null sec.

Blockade Runners

Who ever said Eve was supposed to emulate real life?

Please tell me.

Also, I submit to you the following skillbook.

Confirming 2 of my 3 suicide gank attempts were on unscannable ships, both of which were discovered to be empty.

Sounds fun!

Why do freighters deserve a new mechanic that doesn't exist anywhere else in the game? If you want guns, brings some escorts or do you transportation in a ship with guns. Rig up a Battleship or a T3 Cruiser to be an armed transport and move your good that way.


Space would be much more dangerous with this. Gankers would just self-destruct ships on gates and stations and sweep up the stuff dropped from the smaller ships that are destroyed. Besides, in highsec, gankers are of the suicide variety and their ships are going to be destroyed anyway by CONCORD. What is the purpose of blowing them up a few seconds before CONCORD when you still lose your ship?


Freighters are already one of the safest ships in highsec because of their massive EHP. We do not need to make them even more AFK-able than they are now just so that you can "see" CONCORD destroy some ships. Trust me, all of those gankers are destroyed by CONCORD every time. If you want to watch, fit out a cloaky ship and hang out in the ganker hotspots and look for ships being bumped. When the gank starts, you can even decloak and whore on some CONCORD killmails to make a little extra ISK.

Making ships take damage will lead to explosions of non-suspect ships as with point 2 above. There server has a hard time telling who is initiating a collision and if you make it so that collisions cause damage, players will find a way to use that to blow up other players without CONCORD intervention.

Besides, vulnerability to bumping is the only major downside to freighters. It is up to you to protect yourself from it and CCP has given you plenty of tools to do so.


And without gankers as a risk to freighters you don't have much of a game. In exchange for the reward you earn from your hauling, you are playing the prey item when you take out your loot pinata and the gankers are the hunters. If you don't like that, either take up another profession or just use the collection of tools available to you to make your hauling essentially 100% safe. Red Frog made over 99.7% of their contracts last year, and so can you if you just spend a little effort.

Any of these is more useful than wallowing in your impotency and dreaming up game-breaking suggestions to allow you to avoid spending any effort while moving your goods in total safety. You are suppose to be at risk when hauling goods in highsec. Instead of begging CCP for more safety, just use one of the multitude of strategies that already exist to mitigate these risks while moving goods.

You're right, banks don't send out trucks loaded with cash without some sort of armed escort. Bizarrely enough in Eve you too can have an "armed" escort for your space-truck full of shiny stuff in case of trouble.

O.P give up,

you're not going to generate any kind of support for more hauler rebalance. steadily they're (CCP) is working on nerfing them even more. I guess its the fear of flying bricks taking sov or causing the traffic jams at jita there is some serious hate for them if you haven't noticed. Take a 7bil jump freighter and man haters hate you to hell and back and say its over-powered cause they cant kill you fast enough and that its not fair etc. whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa it jumps too fast.. it looks to good... its needs to be nerf'd cause it jumps too far.. ccp says.. Hey! we'll give it a skin... these gankers say "we want to kill it even more!"

bowhead would have been wonderful if it had jump capability.. but nope.. too overpowered if so there's that.

basically these guys live off of freighter ganking and blockade ganking if someone ( and there is no one) at the dev spot that managed to give haulers major teeth.. then you'd see whines and rages and threadnaughts to the point it would collapse the forum.

they simply just love shooting and killing things that cant shoot back.

they will not ever go look for a real fight.. instead they'll grow their e-peens on curb-stomping a turtle.

lets see.. nerf it cause it carries too much, force slots on it to get hold space back..
cause cargo hold space was too overpowered..

boost the EHP (which didn't work cause freighters are dying on the daily).. guess that was too overpowered.

freighters should just be removed from the game since they're always overpowered and move to damn slow.

these guys hate haulers.. they hate it, they hate it, they hate it!.. so much hate out there for them. I don't understand it and don't think I ever will.

I witnessed a guy just pop blockade runners left and right in jita concord just stood there doing nothing.. dude is alpha'ing like crazy.. no exploit here.. just those damn haulers kept coming in! that's a problem.. its so many its overpowered nerf it right??

hey a 7 bil jump freighter.. its too expensive, jumps to far, its overpowered.. nerf it, besides the fact a player may pay that much for one hey.. this is eve online.. where when things don't make any sense.. make something up so it will make sense cause it was overpowered.

ps... fozzie hates haulers so they are not getting any love what so ever ever again.. eva.. eva.. eva again.. neva ever again..

neverrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...............did I say never.. yeah I did.. I had to haul that never word in to just stress the fact that it aint ever, eva eva... happening.