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Why do EVE players love gankers so much?

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FlinchingNinja Kishunuba
Crunchy Crunchy
#21 - 2011-12-27 15:18:05 UTC
tl;dr cause they can.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#22 - 2011-12-27 16:10:46 UTC
Marduk Nibiru wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Try it. Suicide gank some random miner in a hulk. The mails and/or local chatter you will get in response will make it pretty clear exactly why that person deserved to have his boat violenced.


Even more fun, pop some random inty that has nothing in their hull. The total surprise and personal butt-hurt they express is pretty damn funny.

show on this doll where your parents touched you

and consult with psychologist Big smile

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Nullbeard Rager
Doomheim
#23 - 2011-12-27 16:30:37 UTC
Xorv wrote:
scramblekid wrote:

Why do people hold these gankers in such high regard?

...The gankers are the last line of defense from turning High Sec and potentially the whole game into space WoW.


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!Lol

<3 Chicken Little/Sky Is Falling posts.Bear

Maybe you haven't noticed but 0.0 is already a LOT like empire.Blink

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Smodab Ongalot
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2011-12-27 20:04:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Smodab Ongalot
King Rothgar wrote:

he is my hero. I'll be sending him a donation shortly as a thanks for his efforts.


Confirming donation received! Your isk should be enough to silence the mining laser of at least another 12 mackinaws! Twisted

To answer the OPs question, I do this because it is a fun change of pace. If you make your way though the 3 pages of exhumer kills on my kb, you'll see that I didn't always do this. I just got bored of low-sec for a bit, and this is something different.

I guess to the non-ganker, you wouldn't see this as much fun. Killing a defenseless miner in high-sec is not much of a challenge, I'll admit that. Once you know the mechanics and have the proper tools, it's just a matter of warping and pressing f1. The challenge comes in from seeing how fast you can do them, how many pods you can grab, the thrill of organizing friends to the party, obtaining the ships and modules to suicide, getting good warp-ins, etc, etc.



edit: In case that is too many words, you may just want to watch this:
http://vimeo.com/33894168
Marduk Nibiru
Chaos Delivery Systems
#25 - 2011-12-27 20:36:47 UTC
March rabbit wrote:
Marduk Nibiru wrote:
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Try it. Suicide gank some random miner in a hulk. The mails and/or local chatter you will get in response will make it pretty clear exactly why that person deserved to have his boat violenced.


Even more fun, pop some random inty that has nothing in their hull. The total surprise and personal butt-hurt they express is pretty damn funny.

show on this doll where your parents touched you


It was my butt and I wasn't even a year old!

*sniff* Cry
Marduk Nibiru
Chaos Delivery Systems
#26 - 2011-12-27 20:38:11 UTC
scramblekid wrote:
Marduk Nibiru wrote:
scramblekid wrote:

IRL, I love my job as a software engineer. I know that I would not have my job if the company I work for did not exist, but this does not fill me with an urge to come into the office armed with a shotgun and shoot all of the lesser skilled people ...


You must be one of those that give me the urge to come into the office armed with a shotgun then. Only the unskilled software engineer could accept the unskilleds' right to continue existing. Nothing in the world is worse than the **** they call "programming". Employers that hire them should be fined for torturing their employees.



Upon reading my post again with a sober set of eyes, I must admit that my choice of words for describing my underlings may have been a bit harsh. But hey, Looks like I got my first forum tears, and I was not even trying to get any :)


?

Does harvesting your own tears count?
Byron D
No Duck's Allowed
#27 - 2011-12-27 21:28:37 UTC
Well, first and foremost the OP is using a flawed premise (eve as rl) , which, in turn, can only lead to faulty set of conclusions.

Splitting the eve players in two categories is ofc, oversimplyfing things, but for the sake of the argument, I'll do it. There are the butterflies, who come to the sandbox to seek new thrills, new experiences, and do things that they could/would not do irl. And then there are the nesters. People who even in a game feel the need to build, to be nice, to work hard and put emhapsis on the same set of values that dominate their real life. Or more simply put, there are the people with enthusiasm and creativity, and then there are ppl with the imaginative capabilities of a brick.

Now, of course that the former will look at the latter and say : " You tards are doing a repetitive boring work in a video game, proving that your iq is well below room temperature in celsius", and ofc they are gonna be answered with : "you disfunctional sociopaths can't do anything else other than ruin ppl's work".

But this is where the equality in the debate ends. Because where the creative players challenge themselves to find new ways to wage this conflict, the little working ants just mumble some insults about how everyone who doesn;t play the game the way they think it should be played is a bastard, and then go back to doing what they were doing. I could go for a big ending phrase for my ramblings, but nothing that I could come up with would match Helicity's rant , so I'll leave you with that.
Ladie Harlot
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2011-12-28 04:42:42 UTC
The only people more deserving of being ganked than miners are roleplayers.

The artist formerly known as Ladie Scarlet.

Firestorm Delta
Aphotic Machina
#29 - 2011-12-28 08:21:29 UTC
King Rothgar wrote:
It's just funny. I suicide gank in BF3 too. There it's done with an "allah akbar jeep." Needless to say it's a jeep loaded with C4 that you crash into any enemy unit you can. I guess it comes down to the hilarity of things not going as others expect them too. Randomness and a fair bit of anarchy are fun, regardless of the game being played.

During the 2142 era we called it Jihading. No one ever expected the speeder full of RDX to come sliding sideways into whatever crevice they were hiding in.

Also, despite being a highsec kinda guy I see no reason for them to stop suicide ganking. Just means I have to be more careful of what I haul to and from Jita. Lost a badger a while back from a pair of Canes (pre-Crucible) and it didn't bother me. Just made me make sure to find a safer way to haul valuables.

Also while I won't fund it, I have nothing against those who gank miners. They keep complaining that it gets boring so they have no right to complain about getting ganked. Makes them get out of the ship for once.
Lady Mariko
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#30 - 2011-12-28 11:21:02 UTC


Like meeting the Mr. Elvis Aaron Presley, I will faint now......
scramblekid
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2011-12-28 12:23:28 UTC
Marduk Nibiru wrote:
scramblekid wrote:
Marduk Nibiru wrote:
scramblekid wrote:

IRL, I love my job as a software engineer. I know that I would not have my job if the company I work for did not exist, but this does not fill me with an urge to come into the office armed with a shotgun and shoot all of the lesser skilled people ...


You must be one of those that give me the urge to come into the office armed with a shotgun then. Only the unskilled software engineer could accept the unskilleds' right to continue existing. Nothing in the world is worse than the **** they call "programming". Employers that hire them should be fined for torturing their employees.



Upon reading my post again with a sober set of eyes, I must admit that my choice of words for describing my underlings may have been a bit harsh. But hey, Looks like I got my first forum tears, and I was not even trying to get any :)


?

Does harvesting your own tears count?


Perhaps. If I ever get upset about anything written on a forum I will let you know.
scramblekid
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2011-12-28 12:30:06 UTC
Smodab Ongalot wrote:
[quote=King Rothgar]
edit: In case that is too many words, you may just want to watch this:
http://vimeo.com/33894168



That was awesome, and hey, the more I look at it, you are just keeping the supply / demand scale in balance.

Will also be making a donation once downtime is over :)
Gahagan
White Moon Aeronautics
#33 - 2011-12-29 20:28:02 UTC
As a miner, I didn't like gankers at first.

Then I realized, that if I ganked, there would be less people mining my ore.

It was just the economical decision to make.
Byron D
No Duck's Allowed
#34 - 2011-12-30 11:20:22 UTC
In other news, inb4 Smo posts a vid :

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12012501

5 bil in a 3hr session.
Killstealing
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#35 - 2011-12-30 12:34:34 UTC
Because miners are irrelevant to me since the vast majority of minerals I consume are mined from drone rats. **** miners, they are dumb and fat and ugly and nobody likes them.
Kietay Ayari
Caldari State
#36 - 2011-12-31 11:53:58 UTC
Ladie Harlot wrote:
The only people more deserving of being ganked than miners are roleplayers.


*Taps her foot* Rude!

Ferox #1

Raubrey
KBEAR LOGIC
#37 - 2012-01-02 22:42:08 UTC
Smodab Ongalot wrote:
King Rothgar wrote:

he is my hero. I'll be sending him a donation shortly as a thanks for his efforts.


Confirming donation received! Your isk should be enough to silence the mining laser of at least another 12 mackinaws! Twisted

To answer the OPs question, I do this because it is a fun change of pace. If you make your way though the 3 pages of exhumer kills on my kb, you'll see that I didn't always do this. I just got bored of low-sec for a bit, and this is something different.

I guess to the non-ganker, you wouldn't see this as much fun. Killing a defenseless miner in high-sec is not much of a challenge, I'll admit that. Once you know the mechanics and have the proper tools, it's just a matter of warping and pressing f1. The challenge comes in from seeing how fast you can do them, how many pods you can grab, the thrill of organizing friends to the party, obtaining the ships and modules to suicide, getting good warp-ins, etc, etc.

edit: In case that is too many words, you may just want to watch this:
http://vimeo.com/33894168


But don't you get bored after 3 pages? Blink
It isn't that difficult in a Tornado apparently and I didn't see you get concorded.
That impressed me -- with your sec status and pulling it off in n a .7, repeatedly.
I'm guessing you switch to a cheap ship, get popped, rinse and repeat -- so the cops can return to their donuts.
Regardless, the kills are impressive'; but I think it would be more fun if you were tackled occassionally Pirate

Glad you're enjoying the change of pace. Fuel block prices are up, too \o/.

Note to miners: Be aligned if this guy is in system.
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Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#38 - 2012-01-03 00:06:33 UTC
Raubrey wrote:
Note to miners: Be aligned if this guy is in system.


Ummmm, if known gankers enter your system while you mining ... stop mining. If ppl were not mining, even for a relatively short period of time, the short-attention-span set would move on to other thrills pretty quickly and you can get back to your mining.

Still, it's kinda Darwinian to see local chat in those vids with ppl naming and noting the gankers, and then ppl still getting ganked.

Looks like it'd be fun for a little while. Even tempted to trainup a two-week-wonder and give it a try ... mebbe one day when all the other stuff in eve gets boring.

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.

Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#39 - 2012-01-03 00:36:21 UTC
Byron D wrote:
In other news, inb4 Smo posts a vid :

http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=12012501

5 bil in a 3hr session.


its kind of necessary this gets done imo. At least the trade off between yield / tank, and alertness / ignoring/botting means something when the tanks are being tested by ganking. Its meaningless without players attacking hulks, because the game just does not exercise exhumers at all in highsec in any other sense than yield.

Did anyone field an exhumer that survived your 2 destroyers, or was it 29 attempts, 29 kills ?

Lapsang Souchong Grey
Doomheim
#40 - 2012-01-03 01:00:39 UTC
Princess Bride wrote:
I think many players have no respect for miners. At the same time, it seems like CCP goes out of their way to try to protect them. So when CCP changes something that makes it harder to attack miners in high sec, it becomes funny to kill them despite CCP's efforts. It becomes an us against CCP game of cat and mouse where CCP tries to defend their defenseless mice, and the cats just find a way to kill them anyway.


This and the fact the market is bloated with minerals. Less miners means less minerals, and you also destroy the minerals that went into their ship that's making more minerals, so that people can use those minerals and build more ships that harvest even more minerals and....

Not forgetting it's hilarious to boot.