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Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#1 - 2015-05-05 22:47:17 UTC
I need to hot align, and panic warp more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgn234rE8LA
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#2 - 2015-05-05 23:24:23 UTC
Great one. Epic piloting as always. And +1 for having the bhaals to fly a nano bhaalgorn.

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Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#3 - 2015-05-05 23:43:42 UTC
OMFG NANOBHAALGORN! ♥♥♥

Pairs lovely with the NanoVindi xD

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God's Apples
Wilderness
IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
#4 - 2015-05-06 11:54:20 UTC
Good ramming gameplay

"Hydra Reloaded are just jealous / butthurt on me / us because we can get tons of PVP action in empire while they aren't good enough to get that." - NightmareX
Inggroth
Harbingers of Reset
#5 - 2015-05-06 17:07:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Inggroth
Well, congratulations on receiving 20b+ from eve-bet to lose on shiny ships i guess :D
Entertaining to watch for sure, also music selection mostly to my taste.


I did cringe p. hard when you would fight a gang of t1 **** that combined costs maybe 1/5 of your bhaal alone and then get hazed. Quite sure you'd never do this if it was your own ISK.
The l0l moment was the guy in comms being salty over cyno up on a Bhaal, i mean you guys have played this game for a little while, no?

Also questionable fitting decision IMO. No MJD i understand, i mean 5 mids. But while you desperately need scanres on a BS relying solely on bonused NOS for cap must feel terrible.
I'd honestly rather roll w/ moar neuts+cap booster and maybe a scanres rig to compensate? Maybe i'm wrong.
big miker
Frogleap Factories
#6 - 2015-05-06 17:29:01 UTC
I'm starting to see a pattern here. You release Nightmare vid and I release one too not long after. It's going to be the same with the Bhaalgorn too! Big smile Anyways, good video again Chessur! Love seeing nano battleship action, especially when flying ships you don't expect to kite. A few questionable moments here and there but that happens to all of us. Keep it up.

However I do feel like majority of the fights have been sped up too much. It's hard to see certain piloting techniques being applied. Especially micro-managing the modules. It's a difficult ship to master with that many active modules running, not to mention having to use the nosferatu's as cap feed.

I do also think, even though you have been flying with gang members that the Bhaalgorn shines at fighting slow cruiser gangs.
Like the fight in Sosale, one of the best engagement profiles to be had when flying that Bhaalgorn. Sebo instead of micro-jezus-drive made me cringe though, but that's a personal preference.

Anyways great stuff once again! I'd love to see more in the future Smile

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Nano Naglfar!
Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#7 - 2015-05-06 17:35:40 UTC
Inggroth wrote:
Well, congratulations on receiving 20b+ from eve-bet to lose on shiny ships i guess :D
Entertaining to watch for sure, also music selection mostly to my taste.


I did cringe p. hard when you would fight a gang of t1 **** that combined costs maybe 1/5 of your bhaal alone and then get hazed. Quite sure you'd never do this if it was your own ISK.
The l0l moment was the guy in comms being salty over cyno up on a Bhaal, i mean you guys have played this game for a little while, no?

Also questionable fitting decision IMO. No MJD i understand, i mean 5 mids. But while you desperately need scanres on a BS relying solely on bonused NOS for cap must feel terrible.
I'd honestly rather roll w/ moar neuts+cap booster and maybe a scanres rig to compensate? Maybe i'm wrong.


I financed much of that video- Evebet did not give me 20bil lol. Most of my losses in the bhaal were me flying in a 3 / 2 man gang. all of these 'T1 ships' you mention outnumber us 3:1, have logi (many times there are more logi ships than I have people in my gang) and ECM boats. Its pretty intense.

I think its fair to be a bit salty when your 5 man gang, gets a 30man ishtar blob with archon triage support dropped on it.

Also your second paragraph makes no sense..... I am not sure what you are trying to say here?
Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#8 - 2015-05-06 17:39:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Chessur
big miker wrote:
I'm starting to see a pattern here. You release Nightmare vid and I release one too not long after. It's going to be the same with the Bhaalgorn too! Big smile Anyways, good video again Chessur! Love seeing nano battleship action, especially when flying ships you don't expect to kite. A few questionable moments here and there but that happens to all of us. Keep it up.

However I do feel like majority of the fights have been sped up too much. It's hard to see certain piloting techniques being applied. Especially micro-managing the modules. It's a difficult ship to master with that many active modules running, not to mention having to use the nosferatu's as cap feed.

I do also think, even though you have been flying with gang members that the Bhaalgorn shines at fighting slow cruiser gangs.
Like the fight in Sosale, one of the best engagement profiles to be had when flying that Bhaalgorn. Sebo instead of micro-jezus-drive made me cringe though, but that's a personal preference.

Anyways great stuff once again! I'd love to see more in the future Smile


Yah, there were many micro errors. I struggled nanoing, FCing and managing 9+ active mods on a ship that trys to act like a curse, rapier, and heavy DPS. Doing all of this while trying to manage cap from jsut NOS alone, pushed me a bit. I shined in many fights, failed in others. At the end of the day, I have a long way to go with micro / gameplay.

I agree that the engagement profile of the bhaal is certianly not frigates- cruisers only would be so, so nice :) I can understand why the seebo made you cringe. My logic behind that fitting is as follows: The bhaalgorn that I was flying is designed around the 2X 42K nos, and 2X 42K webs. I want to keep everything at that range, and just nano from there. Becuase I fly with such small numbers- i need to try and deal with light tackle, before it gets sub 20K on me. In order to do that, I fit the seebo and took quafe. MJD is of course another great option- and perhaps it would have been a better choice in the long run.

And I will take a look again at the speed. My nanomare was considered too slow on the footage, so i sped this up. Perhaps I overdid it a bit with 2.7X. Will try and tone it down for the future :)

Thanks for your critique miker, I always love watching your BS footage for inspiration.
Inggroth
Harbingers of Reset
#9 - 2015-05-06 17:51:21 UTC
Chessur wrote:

Also your second paragraph makes no sense..... I am not sure what you are trying to say here?


Well in my opinion (and maybe i'm wrong) doing nano BS without a cap booster and MJD just feels wrong, even if you've got uber-Nosferatus and decent speed with skirmish+snakes .
And you do have several moments in the video where you struggle with cap.
So i'd swap out that SeBo for something more useful and make other fitting tradeoffs to compensate for terrible BS scanres.
Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#10 - 2015-05-06 17:56:00 UTC
Inggroth wrote:
Chessur wrote:

Also your second paragraph makes no sense..... I am not sure what you are trying to say here?


Well in my opinion (and maybe i'm wrong) doing nano BS without a cap booster and MJD just feels wrong, even if you've got uber-Nosferatus and decent speed with skirmish+snakes .
And you do have several moments in the video where you struggle with cap.
So i'd swap out that SeBo for something more useful and make other fitting tradeoffs to compensate for terrible BS scanres.





Ahh I see, that is certainly another option- this makes much more sense now :)
Ugly Eric
Fistful of Finns
#11 - 2015-05-06 18:03:15 UTC
I for one felt disappointed. Maybe it's beacause I was waiting for the world, maybe cos i been flying similar fit myself, who knows.

First, the fitting: if u go full 3x x-type nos, u get so much more versatility to your neuting porwer + full cap stability under all situations. And dat 42km "neut" is pretty dank. The neut cycletime is so ******** slow, that I felt (on my fit) that the 3x nos was just way better in every other scenario, but neuting an active tanked BS. With the 3x nos, you drain 610 cap every 10 seconds before overloading :p

Then the lack of MJD. Even I understand the need of a sebo, I still questionnaire its usage in small gang, where other ppl can be antitackle.

Then we get to a bunch of clear piloting mistakes. Whitch I usually stfu about, but you have been so solid pilot over the years, that I was shocked to see such amount of derp. Running the rep for no reason at all, not spreading the nos on logi, letting ur cap go practically empty with neuting one thing while not nossing anything else at the same time etc etc.

Finally I want to agree with big miker on the too fast speed of the vid. It gets so adhd like that.

But in the end I want to give mad props for doing the videos. I hope you dont take my feedback as a personal attack, but as a "how I could get better" kind of feedback :p
As a hint, dual nano nestors with refittings in cargo for full tank / full gank. I flew those too, but that game ended fast to us being dropped by bunch of supers.
Ugly Eric
Fistful of Finns
#12 - 2015-05-06 18:04:42 UTC
Inggroth wrote:
Chessur wrote:

Also your second paragraph makes no sense..... I am not sure what you are trying to say here?


Well in my opinion (and maybe i'm wrong) doing nano BS without a cap booster and MJD just feels wrong, even if you've got uber-Nosferatus and decent speed with skirmish+snakes .
And you do have several moments in the video where you struggle with cap.
So i'd swap out that SeBo for something more useful and make other fitting tradeoffs to compensate for terrible BS scanres.





That kind of fit is perfectly cap stable with triple nos and MJD. I flew one, and I hope you will see that very ship in big mikers next vidya, as I donated it to him as I dont fly it anymore :p
Chessur
Full Broadside
Deepwater Hooligans
#13 - 2015-05-06 18:37:06 UTC
Ugly Eric wrote:
I for one felt disappointed. Maybe it's beacause I was waiting for the world, maybe cos i been flying similar fit myself, who knows.

First, the fitting: if u go full 3x x-type nos, u get so much more versatility to your neuting porwer + full cap stability under all situations. And dat 42km "neut" is pretty dank. The neut cycletime is so ******** slow, that I felt (on my fit) that the 3x nos was just way better in every other scenario, but neuting an active tanked BS. With the 3x nos, you drain 610 cap every 10 seconds before overloading :p

Then the lack of MJD. Even I understand the need of a sebo, I still questionnaire its usage in small gang, where other ppl can be antitackle.

Then we get to a bunch of clear piloting mistakes. Whitch I usually stfu about, but you have been so solid pilot over the years, that I was shocked to see such amount of derp. Running the rep for no reason at all, not spreading the nos on logi, letting ur cap go practically empty with neuting one thing while not nossing anything else at the same time etc etc.

Finally I want to agree with big miker on the too fast speed of the vid. It gets so adhd like that.

But in the end I want to give mad props for doing the videos. I hope you dont take my feedback as a personal attack, but as a "how I could get better" kind of feedback :p
As a hint, dual nano nestors with refittings in cargo for full tank / full gank. I flew those too, but that game ended fast to us being dropped by bunch of supers.


Apologies about the quality of the footage. Its ironic that some of my 'best' fights don't have some of my best piloting. I certainly made some mistakes : /

Your 3X nos setup would be interesting, and yah MJD would be a great idea. Sorry again abou the speed. Its 2.7 most of the time- and I did that becuase i received a ton of negative feedback on my last video for being too slow.

Thanks for the cretique :)
big miker
Frogleap Factories
#14 - 2015-05-06 18:43:29 UTC
I want to point out though Eric, I have crammed a neut on the bhaal fit aswell instead of the 3x nosferatu's. Nosferatu's only work at the end of their cycle which is a big downside if you want to shut down fast incomming tackle. 2 Heavy nosferatu's can still supply the Bhaalgorn of sufficient capacitor if you pilot well enough to apply them.

Latest video: Ferocious 9.0 - Vertical Supremacy

Nano Naglfar!
maCH'EttE
Perkone
Caldari State
#15 - 2015-05-06 20:56:18 UTC
Chessur wrote:
I need to hot align, and panic warp more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgn234rE8LA

I like the vid..