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Curious about Gatecamps

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Annemarie Menis
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2015-05-06 01:25:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Annemarie Menis
Hi,

I'm somewhat new to pvp. My partner and I have been trying lowsec roams to try and get into it. However, we've encountered some gatecamps in our travels and it seems that they're very hard or impossible to defend against or avoid while flying a standard combat ship.

I'm just curious to know how the community at large feels about gate camps, such as how fun they are for either party (relevant? no?) or how much interesting and engaging gameplay they add to EVE. In addition, I'm curious as to whether CCP plans to remove or modify gatecamps so that there's more interactive gameplay involved.

Keep in mind I'm not looking for ship fits, tips, or help avoiding/defending against gatecamps.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#2 - 2015-05-06 01:31:25 UTC
C&P commandment 1
1. Thou shalt post with thy main or GTFO

When you don't use your forum ALT I'd be happy to discuss this with ya

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

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Annemarie Menis
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2015-05-06 01:36:30 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
C&P commandment 1
1. Thou shalt post with thy main or GTFO

When you don't use your forum ALT I'd be happy to discuss this with ya


Thank you. This will be good to know if I ever decide to interact with you for some reason.
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#4 - 2015-05-06 01:44:51 UTC
Annemarie Menis wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
C&P commandment 1
1. Thou shalt post with thy main or GTFO

When you don't use your forum ALT I'd be happy to discuss this with ya


Thank you. This will be good to know if I ever decide to interact with you for some reason.


He speaks for pretty much everyone on here (with that statement, at least), and I daresay that was much more polite than the usual expectation here.

But you asked a question, and if you'd like an answer, which we will be happy to talk about as its a decent question, then post with your main.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

Annemarie Menis
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2015-05-06 01:47:16 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Annemarie Menis wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
C&P commandment 1
1. Thou shalt post with thy main or GTFO

When you don't use your forum ALT I'd be happy to discuss this with ya


Thank you. This will be good to know if I ever decide to interact with you for some reason.


He speaks for pretty much everyone on here (with that statement, at least), and I daresay that was much more polite than the usual expectation here.

But you asked a question, and if you'd like an answer, which we will be happy to talk about as its a decent question, then post with your main.


Oh, a common sentiment? Interesting. I'll be elsewhere, then. Thanks for the info.
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#6 - 2015-05-06 03:26:15 UTC
They're serious. If you want to post on an alt, do it on reddit. You're much more likely to get bad advice or outright trolled there, however.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#7 - 2015-05-06 04:50:00 UTC
I thought I was being down right polite. Oh well perhaps the next person who claims to have interacted with gate camps in lowsec will have actually interacted with gate camps in lowsec and then we can discuss gate camps in lowsec.

And for those wondering if i can say that 3 times fast
Gatecamps in low sec
gatecramps in lowshreck
greatgramps in lowskek.

dam

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#8 - 2015-05-06 05:40:28 UTC
What they are saying OP is that they know nothing about low sec gatecamps and feel threatened by yout use of an alt to ask!
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#9 - 2015-05-06 05:59:49 UTC
Sol epoch wrote:
What they are saying OP is that they know nothing about low sec gatecamps and feel threatened by yout use of an alt to ask!

I'm just going to leave this comprehensive list of the ships and pos mods found in and around dodixie right here

CoolCool

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

Danalee
A Blessed Bean
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2015-05-06 06:09:02 UTC
BURN! Twisted

D.

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Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#11 - 2015-05-06 06:18:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Sol epoch
Pos mods around Dodixie or scraps around Rens, OP can make their own decision.

http://p0wnd.nl/kb/index.php/pilot_detail/22775/

Try harder to link the correct info as you seem to come up short on that!
https://zkillboard.com/character/302624669/
Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#12 - 2015-05-06 06:20:17 UTC
Danalee wrote:
BURN! Twisted

D.

Bear


No fire without fuel baby!
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#13 - 2015-05-06 06:24:14 UTC
Sol epoch wrote:
Pos mods around Dodixie or scraps around Rens, OP can make their own decision.

http://p0wnd.nl/kb/index.php/pilot_detail/22775/

Would you look at that. Page 2 has nullsec stuff. Page 3 wormholes... I see your point tho little lowsec to speak of. But least I don't have to scroll to October to find something outside of high sec. You should stretch your legs once in a while

CoolCool

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#14 - 2015-05-06 06:29:19 UTC  |  Edited by: Sol epoch
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Sol epoch wrote:
Pos mods around Dodixie or scraps around Rens, OP can make their own decision.

http://p0wnd.nl/kb/index.php/pilot_detail/22775/

Would you look at that. Page 2 has nullsec stuff. Page 3 wormholes... I see your point tho little lowsec to speak of. But least I don't have to scroll to October to find something outside of high sec. You should stretch your legs once in a while

CoolCool


I seem to have touched a nerve with my original quote!

My knowledge of low sec is not an issue here the original quote was accurate.

Not that I care much!
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#15 - 2015-05-06 06:32:21 UTC  |  Edited by: Noragen Neirfallas
Sol epoch wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Sol epoch wrote:
Pos mods around Dodixie or scraps around Rens, OP can make their own decision.

http://p0wnd.nl/kb/index.php/pilot_detail/22775/

Would you look at that. Page 2 has nullsec stuff. Page 3 wormholes... I see your point tho little lowsec to speak of. But least I don't have to scroll to October to find something outside of high sec. You should stretch your legs once in a while

CoolCool


I seem to have touched a nerve with my original quote!

My knowledge of low sec is not an issue here the original quote was accurate.

Not that I care much!

Except for the inconvenient part where it wasn't right?

If you didn't care you wouldn't be replying Blink

CoolCool

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#16 - 2015-05-06 08:38:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
Annemarie Menis wrote:
Hi,

I'm somewhat new to pvp. My partner and I have been trying lowsec roams to try and get into it. However, we've encountered some gatecamps in our travels and it seems that they're very hard or impossible to defend against or avoid while flying a standard combat ship.

I'm just curious to know how the community at large feels about gate camps, such as how fun they are for either party (relevant? no?) or how much interesting and engaging gameplay they add to EVE. In addition, I'm curious as to whether CCP plans to remove or modify gatecamps so that there's more interactive gameplay involved.

Keep in mind I'm not looking for ship fits, tips, or help avoiding/defending against gatecamps.


Hi im Lan and id just like to say thank you for bringing this topic up and you can see my answer below

i like gatecamps personally, my sensor boosted keres with a long point and 3 scrams can pretty much catch anything Pirate, however all it takes is a little common sense to avoid them. we do not need to remove them because you were silly enough to not have a scout or you were too silly to bother burning back to the gate and jumping back to your cushionsec where everything is nice and safe, so please excercise a bit more caution when jumping into low security space.

thank you for your time, pirates have feelings to you know

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#17 - 2015-05-06 08:59:42 UTC
Sol epoch wrote:
Pos mods around Dodixie or scraps around Rens, OP can make their own decision.

http://p0wnd.nl/kb/index.php/pilot_detail/22775/

Try harder to link the correct info as you seem to come up short on that!
https://zkillboard.com/character/302624669/

A lovely edit. It paints you in a whole new lightRoll
Incidentally you should use my z kill or even my ALTs Trosken Neirfallas since I don't spend all my time in high sec corps Blink

CoolCool

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin

Mobadder Thworst
Doomheim
#18 - 2015-05-06 09:18:13 UTC
Annemarie Menis wrote:
Hi,

I'm somewhat new to pvp. My partner and I have been trying lowsec roams to try and get into it. However, we've encountered some gatecamps in our travels and it seems that they're very hard or impossible to defend against or avoid while flying a standard combat ship.

I'm just curious to know how the community at large feels about gate camps, such as how fun they are for either party (relevant? no?) or how much interesting and engaging gameplay they add to EVE. In addition, I'm curious as to whether CCP plans to remove or modify gatecamps so that there's more interactive gameplay involved.

Keep in mind I'm not looking for ship fits, tips, or help avoiding/defending against gatecamps.


Gate camps are good content and they're typically interactable even for 1 or 2 people if you do it right.

The two concepts I would push here are:
1) timer management
2) nano ship concepts

If you weren't anonymous, and I had a hope of a decent interaction, I might consider explaining what I love about running into gate camps.

A little learning talking to these guys can go a long way.

Mo

Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2015-05-06 11:03:31 UTC
Sol epoch wrote:
What they are saying OP is that they know nothing about low sec gatecamps and feel threatened by yout use of an alt to ask!


I think I have a grand total of three kills in highsec. Pretty sure you know quite a bit about undock camping though.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment

Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#20 - 2015-05-06 11:10:35 UTC
it amazes me that the OP knows how to make a forum posting alt but doesnt know to make a scout for avoiding gatecamps

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

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