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Gunman in Santa suit killed six, self in Texas: police

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Atticus Fynch
#1 - 2011-12-27 14:37:56 UTC
Quote:
A gunman who killed six people and himself at a family Christmas celebration was dressed in a Santa Claus suit when opened fire, police said on Monday.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/26/us-bodies-texas-idUSTRE7BO0GV20111226


is it me or are murder suicides getting too common?

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Destination SkillQueue
Doomheim
#2 - 2011-12-27 15:00:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Destination SkillQueue
Maybe, but it might also be a perception issue. It's not uncommon to have the feeling, that some kind of unwanted/dangerous activity is on the rise, because news organisations showcase it on their front pages. In reality the phenomena could even be on the decline according to the statistics, but since it sells and gets people to talk, it's increasingly showcased on the front pages.
Jhagiti Tyran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2011-12-27 16:08:18 UTC
I cannot speak for the US but they are definitely getting more common in the UK, its not a perception thing either because they get reported extensively each time it happens here. Most of them seem to fathers going berserk and killing their wife or ex partner and their own kids.
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#4 - 2011-12-27 16:20:21 UTC
At least is more common than suicide, then murder...

Seriously though, murder suicide is a relatively common kind of family crime in mentally sane people. It's pretty nasty when it involves children...
FloppieTheBanjoClown
Arcana Imperii Ltd.
#5 - 2011-12-27 17:16:59 UTC
As I understand it, the logic goes something like this: "I'm going to kill myself. But what's that going to do to the kids? They'll forever be scarred by my suicide. They'd be better off if I took them with me so that they weren't growing up with all that baggage..." and it just snowballs from there into killing everyone in the room.

That, or they're so angry over some family dispute that they decide to do as much damage as they can on their way out just out of spite. Like a father killing his kids before he kills himself because his estranged wife won custody.

Emotions lead to some twisted, stupid decisions.

Founding member of the Belligerent Undesirables movement.

Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2011-12-27 18:47:04 UTC
Someone was watching Futurama, again.

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!

Brujo Loco
Brujeria Teologica
#7 - 2011-12-28 04:27:34 UTC
VKhaun Vex
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2011-12-28 04:37:41 UTC
Atticus Fynch wrote:
Quote:
A gunman who killed six people and himself at a family Christmas celebration was dressed in a Santa Claus suit when opened fire, police said on Monday.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/12/26/us-bodies-texas-idUSTRE7BO0GV20111226


is it me or are murder suicides getting too common?


Quote:
The last homicide in the town was in June 2010.

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baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2011-12-28 09:50:44 UTC
Jhagiti Tyran wrote:
I cannot speak for the US but they are definitely getting more common in the UK, its not a perception thing either because they get reported extensively each time it happens here. Most of them seem to fathers going berserk and killing their wife or ex partner and their own kids.


More common for wannabe gangesters in london blowing each other away or going on a slashing spree.
Jhagiti Tyran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2011-12-28 09:53:46 UTC  |  Edited by: Jhagiti Tyran
baltec1 wrote:
Jhagiti Tyran wrote:
I cannot speak for the US but they are definitely getting more common in the UK, its not a perception thing either because they get reported extensively each time it happens here. Most of them seem to fathers going berserk and killing their wife or ex partner and their own kids.


More common for wannabe gangesters in london blowing each other away or going on a slashing spree.


There was a gang shooting in Manchester over Christmas to. IMO gangs citizenship should be annulled and then strip them of all rights to benefits and the NHS, radical action is needed unless we want to be like the US in 15-20 years when gangs do whatever the hell they want and all the police can do is try and react.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#11 - 2011-12-28 09:59:04 UTC
Jhagiti Tyran wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Jhagiti Tyran wrote:
I cannot speak for the US but they are definitely getting more common in the UK, its not a perception thing either because they get reported extensively each time it happens here. Most of them seem to fathers going berserk and killing their wife or ex partner and their own kids.


More common for wannabe gangesters in london blowing each other away or going on a slashing spree.


There was a gang shooting in Manchester over Christmas to.


Well yea its mankchester, its the scummy london of the north.

Graelyn
Aeternus Command Academy
#12 - 2011-12-28 10:48:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Graelyn
Jhagiti Tyran wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
Jhagiti Tyran wrote:
I cannot speak for the US but they are definitely getting more common in the UK, its not a perception thing either because they get reported extensively each time it happens here. Most of them seem to fathers going berserk and killing their wife or ex partner and their own kids.


More common for wannabe gangesters in london blowing each other away or going on a slashing spree.


There was a gang shooting in Manchester over Christmas to. IMO gangs citizenship should be annulled and then strip them of all rights to benefits and the NHS, radical action is needed unless we want to be like the US in 15-20 years when gangs do whatever the hell they want and all the police can do is try and react.


Radical action, you say?

But those Texans and their sleep-needle are so barbaric oh god the humanity.

The UK have long ago lost the ability to do anything to criminals. Your assertion to strip them of healthcare that'll set em straight is a great example of the hilarity of the situation.

Cardinal Graelyn

Amarr Loyalist of the Year - YC113

baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#13 - 2011-12-28 11:05:02 UTC
Graelyn wrote:


Radical action, you say?

But those Texans and their sleep-needle are so barbaric oh god the humanity.

The UK have long ago lost the ability to do anything to criminals. Your assertion to strip them of healthcare that'll set em straight is a great example of the hilarity of the situation.


My plan is to turn one of the scottish islands off the west coast into a giant prison and just dump all the chavs in there.
Citizen20100211442
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2011-12-28 11:16:16 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Guard
baltec1 wrote:
[quote=Graelyn]
My plan is to turn one of the scottish islands off the west coast into a giant prison and just dump all the chavs in there.


Racial slurs are not tolerated on these forums. -Guard

To be, or not to be, that's the question.

Jhagiti Tyran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2011-12-28 11:24:33 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Guard
Citizen20100211442 wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
[quote=Graelyn]
My plan is to turn one of the scottish islands off the west coast into a giant prison and just dump all the chavs in there.


Racial slurs are not tolerated on these forums. -Guard


No he means chavs and every other member of the criminal underclass we have over here. Race has very little to do with it because the trouble makers come from every ethnic group.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#16 - 2011-12-28 11:35:53 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Guard
Citizen20100211442 wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
[quote=Graelyn]
My plan is to turn one of the scottish islands off the west coast into a giant prison and just dump all the chavs in there.


Racial slurs are not tolerated on these forums. -Guard


example
Alara IonStorm
#17 - 2011-12-28 11:59:51 UTC
baltec1 wrote:

My plan is to turn one of the scottish islands off the west coast into a giant prison and just dump all the chavs in there.

So like before cept with less Kangaroos.
baltec1
Bat Country
Pandemic Horde
#18 - 2011-12-28 12:03:27 UTC
Alara IonStorm wrote:
baltec1 wrote:

My plan is to turn one of the scottish islands off the west coast into a giant prison and just dump all the chavs in there.

So like before cept with less Kangaroos.


and more wind and rain. We wont make the same mistake againBlink
Jhagiti Tyran
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#19 - 2011-12-28 12:04:06 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Guard
baltec1 wrote:
Citizen20100211442 wrote:
baltec1 wrote:
[quote=Graelyn]
My plan is to turn one of the scottish islands off the west coast into a giant prison and just dump all the chavs in there.


Racial slurs are not tolerated on these forums. -Guard


example



There is a reason things are like this, go back in time to the late 1980s and early 1990s. The economy was shattered by experimental economic policies the Tories tried (monetarism) and very little investment was poured into the criminal justice system, the police, prison service and education system.

There where not enough courts to process cases and nowhere to put people either on remand or convicted, the laws where changed so prisoners where guaranteed release after only serving half their sentence and could be released as early as one third of the sentence. Economic pressures and a soaring inflation dramatically increased unemployment and pushed many families below the poverty line.

Failures in the education system meant many young people had no investment in their own future and little hope of employment when they did leave school.

So we came to the early 90s, we had lower class families living in crumbling social housing estates with many on benefits because they had no other options, many turned to drink or drugs. This left their children growing up with little to no education and failing family cohesion, they had no role models, no respect for authority and no future.

As these issues grew the police where to under funded to deal with it and even when they did justice took months and because the courts had nowhere to put them they got non custodial sentences, the ones that did go to prison didn't spend long in there either.

Soon those early generations of proto chavs had their own children (teenage pregnancies soared) which where a little bit worse than the previous generation, and then they had their own children and so on. Each generation got a little bit worse until we are where we are.

Labour tried to dump money into the police and education system but it was to late, the police still couldn't cope and where hampered by epic levels of bureaucracy and the proto chavs where too out of control too bother with eduction. The Labour government simply failed to make any impact on the problem.

Now we have another Torie government which is slashing funding to everything once again, the nation never recovered from it last time and I hate to see where we will be in another 20 years time.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#20 - 2011-12-28 22:13:21 UTC
It's all the guns fault. Cool

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