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Best Profession for Solo PvE Player

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Talyn Vyvorant
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-05-05 02:47:56 UTC
Hi.
I am new to the game (one week) and am almost done with my tutorials.
I traditionally prefer P v E playing, and I don't have a lot of time to devote to the game, so i figure on soloing a lot.
Any thoughts as to a good P v E solo profession?
fyi: I tried to do a search for this topic, but could not locate anything. Maybe wrong search "terms"?
Anyways....
thanks in advance
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#2 - 2015-05-05 03:01:45 UTC
Talyn Vyvorant wrote:
Hi.
I am new to the game (one week) and am almost done with my tutorials.
I traditionally prefer P v E playing, and I don't have a lot of time to devote to the game, so i figure on soloing a lot.
Any thoughts as to a good P v E solo profession?
fyi: I tried to do a search for this topic, but could not locate anything. Maybe wrong search "terms"?
Anyways....
thanks in advance

PiratingPirate
Seriously tho the best things to do in game are what you enjoy. There really isn't a set of professions like other mmo's have so just do what you enjoy just be weary other people enjoy kicking over the sand castles you may build Blink

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Matenrou
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2015-05-05 06:09:47 UTC
I'd go for lowsec/nullsec exploration, if you want to play it "safe" then just do missions. Can get boring after a while though.
Deck Cadelanne
CAStabouts
#4 - 2015-05-05 06:54:26 UTC
Keep in mind that EVE really is a sandbox. Nowhere is totally safe and there is always going to be somebody who will gleefully blow up whatever you've built just for lols.

You can pursue exploration, you can run NPC faction missions, you can become a trader or an industrialist, you can shoot other players' spaceships for fun and profit...what do you want to do?

There are groups in EVE that cater for a more casual playing style. Don't assume you are relegated to solo play just because you aren't able to invest hours every day in the game.

Good hunting!

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn professional."

- Hunter S. Thompson

Vortexo VonBrenner
Doomheim
#5 - 2015-05-05 07:59:00 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin
New Eden Tech Support
#6 - 2015-05-05 08:05:36 UTC
Find a Corp,
make friends.
?????
Profit
erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#7 - 2015-05-05 09:20:09 UTC  |  Edited by: erg cz
Just one profession can become boring. I am PvE player for good few years now and I found myself even mining sometimes, when I need something relaxing.
PvP will find you anyway, just use to it. Avoid low sec if you want ISK.
In High sec solo you can try exploration and security missions. Exploration is crap cause they nerfed it in Odyssey patch. But still usefull cause it gives you access to wormholes or DED complexes. Security missions in different regions and different ships will provide you with unique views and enough ISK to fund your PvP activities.

TL;DR version of solo PvE activities, I found fun:
1. Level 4 security missions
2. Ded complexes
3. Wormhole diving
4. Mining
5. Planetary interaction
6. Exploration
7. Manufacture


Now wall of text, explaining why and how:
My current setup looks like this:
1. Two jump clones - one in Lanngisi running level 4 security misions in minmatar space for SoE corp. Other one is wondering across gallentian space running L4 security missions for different Gallente or minmatar corps. With Dominix using range (up to 150 km optimal range) as tank you do not need to carry much with you so it is a freedom of nomadic char...
2. Two empty PvP clones around Minmatar / amarr factional warfare. Nothing special to say cause it is not what you are looking for.
3. Special jump clone in Stratios, which is used to dig in wormhole or null space.

Security missions give you stable income. You can see bunkers, cathedrals, drone superstructures, all kind of NPC or celestial objects. Same missions done in sniping Rattlesnake or melee fited Machariel will give you very different experience. Fun and ISK, if you combine it with something else, like Wormhole diving.
Wormholes, if you find an empty one, will give you access to very good mining opportunities and different NPC, who are actually act very different, from NPC in mission pockets in high sec.
Ded complexes are chain of special missions, with interesting rewards in the end. Must be scanned down and you can not use battleship in some of them.
When you need to get away from keyboard too often, launch procurer to mine some ore. Cheap and robust it is not best mining vessel out there but surely will not let suicide gankers kill more ISk, than they will lose doing it. So it will most probably survive left alone in high sec. Simply because it is not worth the kill ;)
During mining you can manage your Planetary interaction colonies. Planets can be adjusted remotely, you only need to go there when you need to pick up the result. It is about 5 milions ISK in a day of passive income. Can be much more if you will start manufacturing planets or invest time to get all related skills to 5.
R&D agents are also passive income but they will cost you time to get your skills skill up.

What not to do:
1. Trading. It is a PvP, worst kind of it.
2. Scamming. Also PvP.
3. Distribution missions. Very low reward even compared with afk mining.
4. Incursions. Not a solo activity. You will wait ages till fleet is formed up. And once you are in team, you can not get out or you will lose your place. If you like to play according to some one else schedule - go defend null sec soverenity.


I seriosly doubt, you will stay away from PvP in the long run, cause it is what EvE mostly about. But PvE is a very big part of the game and there is nothing wrong to enjoy it 98% of your game time
Rammel Kas
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2015-05-05 10:05:44 UTC
...or you could just throw caution to the wind, join a friendly Null sec corp and try the ratting, anomalies, DED, Mining and Exploration in there. Plenty of marketing, market seeding and other options like buy back empires for the rat loot if you've initiative to keep that going. Also the PI is much better.

The risk of course is that it's null. So the fake 'security' afforded by Concord is gone. I call if fake because it's just there so long as the underhive of pirates in High Sec don't get wind of you. Things like bumping (yes even for ratters) and suicide ganks and War Decs are real.

There are some very good groups who welcome people, regardless of skill points. I belong to Brave Collective (HERO Coalition). There's also Karmafleet in Imperium and Pandemic Horde in HED-GP (Although I think they are almost exclusively PVP). Also Eve University have a campus in High, Low, Null and WH Space. But their very formal structure can sometimes not appeal. So however talk to people and find out for yourself.

Trust is big in these groups, since there are players who also play the spy / thief game in EVE. Most of them will as you to submit a full API key simply so that they can vet your employment history and activity. Your mileage may vary on cultural and other differences.

Numbers: a good Null system can yield 1-5 mil / 20 minute interval ("tick" is what we call it) if you only belt rat in an assault frigate or T1 cruiser. If you do anomalies this kicks up to 10-16 mil if you're in a thing like a Vexor Navy Issue with moderate skills. People using Marauders Battleships or Rattlesnakes have reported up to 24 mil / 20 minute tick. In -0.7 to -1.00 truesec or NPC Null you also get a chance or Named NPC rats appearing. These drop the 1-3 purple items you may notice occasionally in trade hubs, which can sell around 2 Billion ISK each.

Mining can give around 4-24 Mil / hour... I may be wrong since I've not done it actively myself. Gas mining is more sparse but it can sell for half a Billion per site. It can be done in a Venture with moderate skills an probing skills to find them.

PI is a passive income and it can give you around 40 mil each day or two. You only need to click lots of buttons every 2-4 days to set the farm going and fly around to collect the goods for market or buy back when they are full and if those systems are quiet.

Wormholes... lots of ISK there and Null also has frequent connections. The income is as irregular and risky as Gas Mining since you need to bring the blue and gold loot to either an active market or High Sec market hub to sell.

People also set up personal POS bases where they run manufacturing (need access to a staging system and mining buy back or seeding hub to get the minerals). If you're near a big coalition's staging system and you keep up with what they like to fly you can make quite a big sum from that. But this is more of a high skill points activity.
Null Infinity
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2015-05-05 11:28:40 UTC
Rammel Kas wrote:
...or you could just throw caution to the wind, join a friendly Null sec corp


As a matter of fact, I was in Null. Nothing for solo, little for PvE. Solo PvE is for high sec, team PvP is for the rest of Eve, IMHO. You suggest something very opposide to what OP wants.

New mining menthods: interactive mining and comet mining

Solecist Project
#10 - 2015-05-05 11:32:37 UTC
Null Infinity wrote:
Rammel Kas wrote:
...or you could just throw caution to the wind, join a friendly Null sec corp


As a matter of fact, I was in Null. Nothing for solo, little for PvE. Solo PvE is for high sec, team PvP is for the rest of Eve, IMHO. You suggest something very opposide to what OP wants.
That's not true at all.
You're not old or experienced enough to form a proper opinion about this.

Read his post and throw your opinion out of the window.

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#11 - 2015-05-05 11:41:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Kitty Bear
Exploration
means dodging pvp'ers in losec, nul & wormholes
which you might find entertaining

Missions
Hisec - really easy, monotonous
Pirate Missions - losec & npc-nul, so similar to exploration
FW - losec, you get to dodge pvp'ers again

Mining
less interesting than hisec missions
but steady reliable income





if you want to try something a bit more 'with people'
there are several communities in eve

don't know the name but there is/was a mining fleet channel, im sure someone will post that info
you can also join the "Quafe Central" channel for pvp fun


edit
yes I read the ops basic premise

like the op I t get to log in sporadically and have limited time when im logged in

I suggested pvp as something to think about as it's really what makes eve eve
pve generates isk and standings
your ship exploding during pve is a rarity
once you have enough isk to replace your mission ship .. extra isk just sits there doing nothing
isk generation is a poor reason to play the game, and eves mechanics make it not very entertaining (in the long run)


solo pve in eve IS boring and poorly implemented ...
other MMO's do it better, sorry fanboi's but it's not CCP's strong point

where eve shines is group based activities versus other groups and individuals
that is CCP's strong point, and they pull it off reasonably well
Rammel Kas
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2015-05-05 12:12:02 UTC
Null Infinity wrote:
Rammel Kas wrote:
...or you could just throw caution to the wind, join a friendly Null sec corp


As a matter of fact, I was in Null. Nothing for solo, little for PvE. Solo PvE is for high sec, team PvP is for the rest of Eve, IMHO. You suggest something very opposide to what OP wants.


I'm not a fan of disproving opinion. But there is an objective way you can actually measure this sort of activity. Just use Dotlan (or even in-game map filters) to look up NPC kills. Notice where it's done a lot? Well now click the filter for the Corporation/Alliance ticker. Notice how it's be big wealthy Null sec factions who do it a lot? This is no co-incidence. This space has a value. If you're not playing PVP this is what you can do with it.

Not telling any wild stories here. This is what a lot of us do on a daily basis when we're not involved in PVP.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#13 - 2015-05-05 12:16:54 UTC
"Solo pve player" is shorthand for "I'm going to unsub in a month".

Not only is a "PVE player" a non-existent thing, but EVE is a thoroughly miserable experience played by yourself.

The ultimate destiny of people who identify themselves that way is to either quit the game in short order or to die alone In their blinded out golem that they can't replace.
Mara Rinn
Cosmic Goo Convertor
#14 - 2015-05-05 12:43:30 UTC
If you think exploration might be "a thing", check out Signal Cartel. They're a corporation focussed on exploration, and it seems like they have a decent attitude Big smile
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#15 - 2015-05-05 13:24:38 UTC
While most of you have offered excellent suggestions I am still staggered by the number who specifically mention PvP(blow up others stuff definition) even though the OP strongly indicated that it is not his preferred play style.

For a reasonably safe activity that can still make decent ISK for a casual player missions are a decent option.
Yes the security version of them will pay more but even distribution missions an generate a decent amount of ISk for a solo casual player.
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2015-05-05 13:29:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Tipa Riot
Kitty Bear wrote:

if you want to try something a bit more 'with people'
there are several communities in eve

don't know the name but there is/was a mining fleet channel, im sure someone will post that info
you can also join the "Quafe Central" channel for pvp fun

The NPSI (Not Purple Shoot It) casual PvP communities, is what I recommend to keep an eye on, Spectre Fleet, Bombers Bar, Redemption Road, RvB Ganked are their ingame channels.

IMO there is not much fun in the long term doing only scripted stuff in EvE, PvE becomes repetitive fast and is mainly there to increase standings and fund ship explosions in PvP. The point is, to set your own goals and define your own achievements, think outside the box, do something else if one activity becomes boring ...

I'm my own NPC alt.

Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#17 - 2015-05-05 13:38:22 UTC
erg cz wrote:
Just one profession can become boring. I am PvE player for good few years now and I found myself even mining sometimes, when I need something relaxing.
PvP will find you anyway, just use to it. Avoid low sec if you want ISK.
In High sec solo you can try exploration and security missions. Exploration is crap cause they nerfed it in Odyssey patch. But still usefull cause it gives you access to wormholes or DED complexes. Security missions in different regions and different ships will provide you with unique views and enough ISK to fund your PvP activities.

TL;DR version of solo PvE activities, I found fun:
1. Level 4 security missions
2. Ded complexes
3. Wormhole diving
4. Mining
5. Planetary interaction
6. Exploration
7. Manufacture


Now wall of text, explaining why and how:
My current setup looks like this:
1. Two jump clones - one in Lanngisi running level 4 security misions in minmatar space for SoE corp. Other one is wondering across gallentian space running L4 security missions for different Gallente or minmatar corps. With Dominix using range (up to 150 km optimal range) as tank you do not need to carry much with you so it is a freedom of nomadic char...
2. Two empty PvP clones around Minmatar / amarr factional warfare. Nothing special to say cause it is not what you are looking for.
3. Special jump clone in Stratios, which is used to dig in wormhole or null space.

Security missions give you stable income. You can see bunkers, cathedrals, drone superstructures, all kind of NPC or celestial objects. Same missions done in sniping Rattlesnake or melee fited Machariel will give you very different experience. Fun and ISK, if you combine it with something else, like Wormhole diving.
Wormholes, if you find an empty one, will give you access to very good mining opportunities and different NPC, who are actually act very different, from NPC in mission pockets in high sec.
Ded complexes are chain of special missions, with interesting rewards in the end. Must be scanned down and you can not use battleship in some of them.
When you need to get away from keyboard too often, launch procurer to mine some ore. Cheap and robust it is not best mining vessel out there but surely will not let suicide gankers kill more ISk, than they will lose doing it. So it will most probably survive left alone in high sec. Simply because it is not worth the kill ;)
During mining you can manage your Planetary interaction colonies. Planets can be adjusted remotely, you only need to go there when you need to pick up the result. It is about 5 milions ISK in a day of passive income. Can be much more if you will start manufacturing planets or invest time to get all related skills to 5.
R&D agents are also passive income but they will cost you time to get your skills skill up.

What not to do:
1. Trading. It is a PvP, worst kind of it.
2. Scamming. Also PvP.
3. Distribution missions. Very low reward even compared with afk mining.
4. Incursions. Not a solo activity. You will wait ages till fleet is formed up. And once you are in team, you can not get out or you will lose your place. If you like to play according to some one else schedule - go defend null sec soverenity.


I seriosly doubt, you will stay away from PvP in the long run, cause it is what EvE mostly about. But PvE is a very big part of the game and there is nothing wrong to enjoy it 98% of your game time


sorry but dont agree with this.

"Exploration is crap cause they nerfed it" - still very profitable in nullsec and a worthy career.

"Avoid low sec if you want ISK" - not true you make more when you go down sec status so really if you want to "make good isk" get out of highsec.

"So it will most probably survive left alone in high sec. Simply because it is not worth the kill ;) " - no it wont, gankers will kill you for simply being afk regardless of how much isk they lose for killing your ship.

"If you like to play according to some one else schedule - go defend null sec soverenity." - again not true sov was quite relaxing, i wasnt forced to join fleets and i could pve as much as i wanted.

If you do exploration dont feel like you are forced to stay in highsec, highsec only carebears mostly think bad things happen when you go past the lowsec gate warning, lowsec and null can be very rewarding you just need a little awareness and caution

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*

Solecist Project
#18 - 2015-05-05 13:47:58 UTC
As Lan points out ... anyone who tells you not to go anywhere ...
... because you might get popped ...
... is a griefer who wants to deny you excitement ...
... and ultimately wants to ruin your game.

And you are nowhere safe.
Not even safe enough

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia

erg cz
Federal Jegerouns
#19 - 2015-05-05 13:51:30 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:


sorry but dont agree with this.



Sure, you are member of one of the most active pirate corps, who actually feast on those, who came to make ISK in low sec.

Lan Wang wrote:

"Exploration is crap cause they nerfed it" - still very profitable in nullsec and a worthy career.

Exploration in high sec. I was talking about high sec activities.

Lan Wang wrote:

"Avoid low sec if you want ISK" - not true you make more when you go down sec status so really if you want to "make good isk" get out of highsec.

With elementary pre-cautions you will be able to fly safely in high sec. Only place, when I lost some ships to other player was low sec. Regardless how vigilant OP will be - he will lose your ship there. Because of players like you. And this loss will mean for newbee much more, than it will be for you. Cause he does not want to lose his PvE ship. So frustration from the loss of the ship even if he can afford himself to buy 20 of such kind will be also on "no fun in this stupid game full of boolies" list. Low sec is where PvE ppl spend their ISK, not where we make them, IMHO. You are pirate - thats another story.


Lan Wang wrote:

"So it will most probably survive left alone in high sec. Simply because it is not worth the kill ;) " - no it wont, gankers will kill you for simply being afk regardless of how much isk they lose for killing your ship.

Check killboard for mining barges, pls. High sec and no war targets. You will see why I posted this.
Rammel Kas
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#20 - 2015-05-05 13:59:20 UTC
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
"Solo pve player" is shorthand for "I'm going to unsub in a month".

Not only is a "PVE player" a non-existent thing, but EVE is a thoroughly miserable experience played by yourself.

The ultimate destiny of people who identify themselves that way is to either quit the game in short order or to die alone In their blinded out golem that they can't replace.


Ok please keep in mind my perspective is the Fun Per Hour concept. That's how we avoid burn out. If it's not fun anymore you're doing something wrong aren't you?

My lot PVE to buy new ships and avoid turning this game into a second job when you want to plex your account. It also has the pilots be in space not just sitting in station.

We also PVP a lot. At various times our system has been the second most violent in all of New Eden on Dotlan. (Flew Logi in BUZ-DB... you're looking at around the end of last year.) In December we could often have 7 or more small gang fights just in the 2-3 hours I was on.

Excluding one of the reasons to be in space really undermines your ability to participate in anything.

But I would agree with you on Golems. Although I have met some very bloodthirsty Golem pilots too. They work wonders for making the incautious stay on grid when they really shouldn't.
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