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Syds Sinclair
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#181 - 2015-05-04 17:31:05 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
The April data is ready.
The top CFC killer is once again Mordus Angels with 153B
Second place: Out of Sight.: 128B
Third: The Marmite Collective: 94B

NC. did 64B during an ongoing war. Anyone wants to place his trust in them instead of Mordus?


..Do you know what sov is?

Did you even think of the outcome of giving Marmite ISK this go around? Where do you think that money is going, and why do you think it will lead to more CFC kills?

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Gericht
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#182 - 2015-05-04 20:15:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Gericht
To be fair, it IS interesting to see that Imperium losses are pretty static. Gevlon's analysis shows that it's been at 3.1 T +/- 0.2 a month for well over a year. Regardless of war, sov changes, move ops, what have you's.
It's also regardless of who GG pays, but that bit seems to be ignored on his blog ;)
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#183 - 2015-05-04 21:18:12 UTC
Imperium?

Wtf is that?

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Paranoid Loyd
#184 - 2015-05-04 21:25:30 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Imperium?

Wtf is that?

The CFC's new name

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#185 - 2015-05-04 21:59:45 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Imperium?

Wtf is that?

The CFC's new name


Lmfao stop it

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Paranoid Loyd
#186 - 2015-05-04 22:02:13 UTC
Leto Thule wrote:
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Leto Thule wrote:
Imperium?

Wtf is that?

The CFC's new name


Lmfao stop it


Heh

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#187 - 2015-05-05 03:47:05 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
The April data is ready.
The top CFC killer is once again Mordus Angels with 153B
Second place: Out of Sight.: 128B
Third: The Marmite Collective: 94B

NC. did 64B during an ongoing war. Anyone wants to place his trust in them instead of Mordus?

Without even trying we got 3rd... nc needs to pick their game up

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#188 - 2015-05-05 03:50:53 UTC
Syds Sinclair wrote:
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
The April data is ready.
The top CFC killer is once again Mordus Angels with 153B
Second place: Out of Sight.: 128B
Third: The Marmite Collective: 94B

NC. did 64B during an ongoing war. Anyone wants to place his trust in them instead of Mordus?


..Do you know what sov is?

Did you even think of the outcome of giving Marmite ISK this go around? Where do you think that money is going, and why do you think it will lead to more CFC kills?

Killing moar CFC obviously.

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

ISD Buldath favorite ISD

'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Syds Sinclair
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#189 - 2015-05-05 12:04:00 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Syds Sinclair wrote:
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
The April data is ready.
The top CFC killer is once again Mordus Angels with 153B
Second place: Out of Sight.: 128B
Third: The Marmite Collective: 94B

NC. did 64B during an ongoing war. Anyone wants to place his trust in them instead of Mordus?


..Do you know what sov is?

Did you even think of the outcome of giving Marmite ISK this go around? Where do you think that money is going, and why do you think it will lead to more CFC kills?

Killing moar CFC obviously.


..So Gevlon's donation is going to pay for more wardecs against the CFC? Going to fund SRP for only losses against the CFC?

♠ Sinclair Consulting ♠
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#190 - 2015-05-05 13:08:06 UTC
It's no longer the 'CFC', It's called 'The Librarian' now.

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

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Syds Sinclair
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#191 - 2015-05-05 16:46:55 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
It's no longer the 'CFC', It's called 'The Librarian' now.



..Grrr Librarians.

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#192 - 2015-05-05 18:15:55 UTC
Syds Sinclair wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Syds Sinclair wrote:
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
The April data is ready.
The top CFC killer is once again Mordus Angels with 153B
Second place: Out of Sight.: 128B
Third: The Marmite Collective: 94B

NC. did 64B during an ongoing war. Anyone wants to place his trust in them instead of Mordus?


..Do you know what sov is?

Did you even think of the outcome of giving Marmite ISK this go around? Where do you think that money is going, and why do you think it will lead to more CFC kills?

Killing moar CFC obviously.


..So Gevlon's donation is going to pay for more wardecs against the CFC? Going to fund SRP for only losses against the CFC?

Srp? Why would you need srp for killing them? Wait people lose ships to the librarians?

Member and Judge of the Court of Crime and Punishment

Noragens basically the Chribba of C&P - Zimmy Zeta

Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

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'"****station games" - Sun Tzu' - Ralph King Griffin
Syds Sinclair
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#193 - 2015-05-05 19:40:47 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Syds Sinclair wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Syds Sinclair wrote:
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
The April data is ready.
The top CFC killer is once again Mordus Angels with 153B
Second place: Out of Sight.: 128B
Third: The Marmite Collective: 94B

NC. did 64B during an ongoing war. Anyone wants to place his trust in them instead of Mordus?


..Do you know what sov is?

Did you even think of the outcome of giving Marmite ISK this go around? Where do you think that money is going, and why do you think it will lead to more CFC kills?

Killing moar CFC obviously.


..So Gevlon's donation is going to pay for more wardecs against the CFC? Going to fund SRP for only losses against the CFC?

Srp? Why would you need srp for killing them? Wait people lose ships to the librarians?



..Exactly my point. It was a donation from Gevlon, not a contract. So Tora isnt required to use that ISK to WarDec The Librarians.
And there is no SRP to help kill The Librarians. From Gevlon's perspective and keeping with his goals of hurting The Librarians, how does donating to Marmite further his cause?

It doesn't. Gevlon is the Galactic Idiot.

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#194 - 2015-05-05 23:15:04 UTC
Syds Sinclair wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:

Srp? Why would you need srp for killing them? Wait people lose ships to the librarians?



..Exactly my point. It was a donation from Gevlon, not a contract. So Tora isnt required to use that ISK to WarDec The Librarians.
And there is no SRP to help kill The Librarians. From Gevlon's perspective and keeping with his goals of hurting The Librarians, how does donating to Marmite further his cause?

It doesn't. Gevlon is the Galactic Idiot.

I'm no expert but looking at our wars and the amount donated I'd have to say we used to for another week of war on a whole bunch of librarians

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Confirming that we all play in Noragen's eve. - BeBopAReBop

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Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#195 - 2015-05-06 17:24:07 UTC
Syds Sinclair wrote:
It was a donation from Gevlon, not a contract. So Tora isnt required to use that ISK to WarDec The Librarians.
And there is no SRP to help kill The Librarians. From Gevlon's perspective and keeping with his goals of hurting The Librarians, how does donating to Marmite further his cause?


After receiving a donation they have 2 options:
- take it and laugh once
- spend it on killing Goonies for one more week to receive another donation

Hint: Marmites like killing people.

My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com
Eyrun Mangeiri
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#196 - 2015-05-06 19:12:56 UTC
Gericht wrote:
To be fair, it IS interesting to see that Imperium losses are pretty static. Gevlon's analysis shows that it's been at 3.1 T +/- 0.2 a month for well over a year. Regardless of war, sov changes, move ops, what have you's.
It's also regardless of who GG pays, but that bit seems to be ignored on his blog ;)


That is "scientific standard". Ignore everything that contradicts your thesis.

I can see what you see not - vision milky then eyes rot. When you turn they will be gone - whispering their hidden song.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#197 - 2015-05-06 19:28:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Tora Bushido
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Marmites like killing people.
Sorryyyyyyy Twisted

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#198 - 2015-05-08 14:33:58 UTC
Gericht wrote:
To be fair, it IS interesting to see that Imperium losses are pretty static. Gevlon's analysis shows that it's been at 3.1 T +/- 0.2 a month for well over a year. Regardless of war, sov changes, move ops, what have you's.
It's also regardless of who GG pays, but that bit seems to be ignored on his blog ;)

The reason is simple: this is the amount of losses CFC can sustain. If they are getting more on one front, they cut back on another, like going "blueball or blob" to avoid losses.

So if my donation recipients would cause 1.5T a month, the total would still be around 3T, because they'd give up another region to avoid ratting losses make more treaties to avoid wars, call back reavers, postpone Burn Jita(Amarr) and survive.

If my donation recipients would cause 3T+ a month, they'd failcascade.

My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com
Gericht
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#199 - 2015-05-09 06:02:59 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Gericht wrote:
To be fair, it IS interesting to see that Imperium losses are pretty static. Gevlon's analysis shows that it's been at 3.1 T +/- 0.2 a month for well over a year. Regardless of war, sov changes, move ops, what have you's.
It's also regardless of who GG pays, but that bit seems to be ignored on his blog ;)

The reason is simple: this is the amount of losses CFC can sustain. If they are getting more on one front, they cut back on another, like going "blueball or blob" to avoid losses.

So if my donation recipients would cause 1.5T a month, the total would still be around 3T, because they'd give up another region to avoid ratting losses make more treaties to avoid wars, call back reavers, postpone Burn Jita(Amarr) and survive.

If my donation recipients would cause 3T+ a month, they'd failcascade.


Do you have any actual evidence to back up this theory of yours?

Because as far as I see it these losses just represent the easy ganks a coalition the size of the imperium offers. And someone WILL take those, regardless of who (if anyone) pays them.

I would suggest that your donations have ensured that the ganks are taken by fewer groups as those groups can be more active and thus farm more efficiently.

Of course, from your blog evidence and correlation are not things you overly concern yourself with. Your repeated claims (implied in the above post again) that the Imperium shrank because of ratting kills utterly ignores every other aspect of the game. And your own statistics which clearly show those losses pre-sov change had were no reason to reduce sov.
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#200 - 2015-05-12 04:28:32 UTC
The April ratting data is out.
If killing ratters does nothing, why did CFC kill 2M less rats in April than in March?

My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com