Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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Yes pls.

Yes to the triage changes,

No to the fighter-only change.

Have you calculated what the output of a guardian is verse an archon? At max skills, one archon with 3 t1 reppers, the more expensive ones, can output 990 hp/s. A guardian with 4 repairers can do 341 hp/s. Which makes three guardians able to out rep a carrier. Add on the fact that a guardian has 20 additional kilometers of rep range and your argument holds no weight. This is before considering that a guardian can be fitted with 5 repairers in some circumstances.

With drones, why not look to reduce the size of the bay instead of looking at neutering a carriers combat potential. They can hold so many drones because a fighter is 5,000 m3. Drop the size of fighters and the bay will drop as well. Alternatively, instead of crippling the ability of carriers to deal with subcaps, give the carrier a two bays, one for fighters and a small bay for subcap drones, say 1,000m3. Enough to hold a variety but not an infinite variety. 1,000 m3 is enough for 40 sentries by the way and nothing else. More than fair for a fight in my estimate.

Nobody said the first part, and I couldn't agree more with the second... They are in need of a rebalance like the rest of the capitals now that structure bashing is going away. Something along the lines of a base line damage and a massive tracking bonus, then siege mode applies a tracking reduction and damage bonus. IE - siege mode anti-cap/structure, out of siege the "big stick" of a fleet that still requires fleet assistance to stay alive and apply damage.




Like I stated above for the dreads. Triage is meant for repping structures or saving other capitals from other capitals, much like dread's siege is meant for destroying them. Out of triage they are balanced for direct combat, which is why while in triage they cannot use their drones. Your complaint about RR and RC is actually a matter of scaling, something that could only be "fixed" by applying diminishing returns to them (not something that should ever be considered!). Reduce the amount of remote assistance, all you do is increase the number required for an effective fleet while killing the game play of small time users of the ship. And if you apply a diminishing returns then you will effectively kill off this form of combat entirely, and it would likely be applied to sub-caps as well destroying any purpose of bringing logi at all. And no my friend, that is not a good thing as you have now reduced the variety of ships brought into a fleet and hurt the little guys even more yet again.



I believe someone said this already... do you have any idea how BAD fighters are? Sentries/Geckos have better applied damage than them until you go full tracking fit which has no place in actual combat. Also frigates, and to an extent cruisers, should be left to the sub-cap fleets to handle anyway not the carriers/dreads themselves.




-1 Please go fly one before you suggest changes again.

-1. No more drones nerfs, they are primary weapons for some ships and you try to cripple them.

So...neither drone bay or bandwidth, nor the requirements for the upgrades, are considered fitting requirements?

Well provided the right fitting they could kill subcap of pretty much any size so they are, provided a not so stupid fit, likely capable of at least targeting BS and probably BC. Not being able to fend off cruisers and under for a capital platform should be considered bad? Hell battleship have some application issue VS cruiser and under...

It's not like they are supposed to be their own anti tackle arm while providing the logistic arm and dps for a fleet...

At least not without re-fitting.

Capital ships should not be useless outside of special modes.
I.E. Dreads actually need a buff, they should be viable outside of siege, as this will allow them to actually participate in fleet fights more, and make siege an interesting option rather than a required part of their function.
Same for carriers and triage, they should be able to perform a RR role outside of Triage, since it's not interesting to be forced to be immobile and local reps only in a larger fight.

Does the total amount need a change downward, perhaps. But it should still be a practical amount, Triage should not be +500%.

So basically this is another topic, where people who don't know much about ship stats, are talking like they know how to rebalance again. :/

+1 for triage change

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO for fighter change