EVE General Discussion

As far as i know, you can have logi ships, actively repping your freighter, without ever being a valid target to the attackers, or did they change that?
If thats still the case, i would say your only chance is bringing logi and hoping they can keep the freighter alive, untill CONCORD does its thing, but i honestly dont know if it would work.

The only other thing to do, is engage who ever is engaging you, but it wont do anything as the attacker would most likely enjoy it and be enclined to engage you again, because you put up a fight.

Hyperdunking requires a few pilots. like 4? at least... a Machariel to bump, a Bowhead and 1-2 catalysts. As such, for a single account/player to counter the work of 4+ players is hard. EVE is a game that really rewards group play. So "solo" I'm not sure there is much you can do. 2-3 well tanked logi should make anything but a large group unable to break you, and the logi can AB around making them hard to effectively bump and thus be dunked themselves.

TL:DR Logi and/or friends. Counter Hyperdunk their Bowhead/Machariel

I'm okay with the idea of logis countering an active gank.

But how do I stop the bumping. Especially a guy who is bumping me for half an hour that might have a character resetting my logoff timer now and then, in a noob ship?

Like I said, I'm not butt hurt or anything, but it seems like a broken game mechanic, if there is nothing that can actualy be done.

You didn't try webbing alts, because if you did, you'd have noticed they are obscenely effective. Not perfect, but very effective.

I recently ran around as a webbing guy for a freighter friend of mine. What you hear is true - freighters WILL go into warp sideways if you web them right. It doesn't work instantly every time, but it works instantly like half the time, depending on what speed everyone was going and all that. And it does dramatically cut down on time to get to warp for the freighter. Remember that any bumping ship needs to eyeball you and start a bowling ball run at you before it can do anything. And yes, that does give you enough time to be webbed into warp and out of the way before he broadsides you.

I use a hyena for 30km webs. Maybe your friend or alt may want to use an interceptor just in case you do actually get bumped, they can MWD out to 150km for you to get a warp-to. It's complicated sometimes, but there's plenty of things you can do. Webbing is awesome as it is the first line* and best line of defense.

*If you don't include scouting, which your web buddy can totally do for you too. Have him take the gate before you. "Uh, a dozen Talos on this side of gate, maybe log off and continue this journey later..."

How do I instauneock then when my ship is over 100% speed?

Its actually not "over 100%", its some higher percentage that blocks warp. But there does seem to be some higher speed, above which you do not warp. If the bumper keeps you above that speed, you cannot warp, even if aligned. At least I think that's how it works, I should check it out.

Get an alt set up at a warp-able distance away from the freighter in the same direction that the mach is bumping you. Then web it from there to where you want.

This assumes that the distance is far enough away that the mach can't close the distance and get another bump in before aligning tot he intended destination with webs.

Hyperdunking is easily avoidable if you are active and have friends.

Bumping may require a little more work once you are caught, but then that simply means you failed in the first place.
To say nothing can be done is dishonest and talks of poor use of the current options available.

Easy way out of bumping would be MJD on freighters. I know you're all going to scream bloody murder, but there it is, and it's only half a chance for the freighter to align to something and warp out before the Machariel MWD's to him.

If you catch an AFK pilot it's not an issue, they won't be at the keyboard to activate the MJD.

Once the suicide crew engages, it should be possible to keep the cap drained enough, and/or intermittent or rotating scrams on the freighter to prevent MJD use (CCP may have to adjust the MJD or the freighter stats to ensure that keeping the cap drained is feasible).

You just won't have the capability for one Machariel to hold the prey indefinitely without flags or aggro until you all take your sweet time assembling and going half-way across the map to gank it.

You're wrong. Because as mentioned above, there are plenty of ways out of a bump.