Intergalactic Summit

No. This is not born out by the evidence. This is a conjecture based solely on pre-existing bias.


Pre-existing bias confirmed. Cross-reference "Children of Naught" and "ID: Jenneth, Aria" show high incidence of negative attitudes toward infomorphs. Drifters presumably infomorphs. Therefore, negative connotations presumed.

Ignoring known schism within Jovian culture and existence of Jovian Disease. Links to Mirror sites not extrapolated. No archaeological analysis of structures, technology performed. Lack of insight into causality of behavior.

Disregarding theory.

>>"It is good to see you again, Pilot Jenneth."

Additional note: "Do not attribute to malice that which can be explained by simpler means, namely, there is an alternative explanation that does not involve war."

You...are very ignorant. Possibly intentionally so.

Or just a slanderer. Not more than I would expect from the Nation.

Deceiver's Echo:

Well, this is odd.

All of a sudden I feel a little bad for co-opting Ms. Polevhia's "beep boop."

Then again, there's something else and much less ... cold ... than a computer going on here. Either you know me better than I know myself, or you don't know much about me at all.

I think it must be the latter. If you're right about me, it's not for the reasons you cite. You seem to have done your research in the wrong places.

... Though your handle doesn't inspire confidence in ... anything about you, Ms. Echo. Maybe it's supposed to be ironic, but....

One thing I will say: if I were as you describe, I ought to be overflowing with self-hate. I'm kind of scared of myself, and I think I really, truly despised myself in the past, in a time I don't really want to return to, but ...

... I'm pretty okay with being me, I think.

Respectfully, pilot, this is an old argument.

If CONCORD can't just switch us off (which they might or might not be able to do), we're still vulnerable to the people who work for us.

We're well equipped to defend against a naval assault. We're badly equipped to defend against a campaign of sabotage.

Of course, if we acquired Sleeper or Drifter (assuming they're meaningfully distinct) technologies, that might change, but our understanding of their technology is in its infancy. Unless they decide to help us, it won't be so easy.

The reason this doesn't happen is essentially: we're useful. We're the strongest line of defense against the Nation, and if the Drifters turn out to have hostile intent towards the empires, we'll be the strongest line there, as well.

Maybe if our benefactors are gone we'll start to see people looking for ways to limit and restrict us further, but I sort of don't think so. We're too valuable a resource to risk alienating, even if the empires would surely win any war between us.

We all change. Thought, action and emotions.

Our past dictates our actions, and your past speaks clearly. Bias is still present in your thinking. It is a bias shared by many though. There is no shame in that. I point it out as reason to believe your theories are narrow in focus, and not taking into account evidence presented.

For instance; limits placed on actions of Drifter assets due to outside influences (CONCORD, Empires, Capsuleers, etc.) and ignore evidence of what they seem to be going after. Not to mention the rapid reverse engineering of technology not yet seen in the Cluster.

It is a string of evidence that no one has seen in it's own light. Causation seen from the wrong angle. A cascade effect not understood, and not comprehended.

I await permission from Nation to share what I believe. I will not act against my Master. If it is deemed necessary for me to share, I shall share. Your theories are something that interest me. Your thought process interests me. However, I cannot interfere in the course of this investigation without permission. I hope others see the pattern but if they do not, and I am not given leave to share, then clarity will not be given.

My apologies. I have perhaps let my curiosity get the better of me. I shall continue to await a reply from my Master.

Bias is present in everyone's thinking. We take impressions of or experiences with X "sort" of situation or Y "sort" of person, and base our reactions to future situations or people on those past impressions. It's often inaccurate, to one degree or another. It's also often unfair.

For example: normally, a person you met last year, and whom you meet again today, will remember having been the person you met last year.

But not always. Sometimes, you may meet someone who has no personal memories more than a few months old.

If you assume that those memories will be there, that is a bias shared by many. There is no shame in that.

(I do still remember "facts" my prior self collected-- which, however, were collected from her own perspective. I'm working on expanding my knowledge base so as to limit the effect of her biases as much as possible.)


Subjects in search of verbs. Oblique and obfuscatory allusions implicitly asserting superior illumination-- or perhaps trying to be misunderstood?

Language used as a weapon-- but against us, or against a stricture?

You refuse to explain yourself without orders from your Master, but you're hinting like crazy. If you communicate badly enough, does it not count as communication?

There's a lot that you say that could have something to it, if there's something substantial I've overlooked-- which is quite possible. My knowledge of the details of certain Sleeper site and technologies, such as the much-discussed but seemingly little-understood Mirror, is minimal. Other aspects, such as the Jovian disease, I can take into account without discussing them directly, and have.

On the other hand, whatever you're trying to lead me towards could be nonsense, itself.

....

Considering how many archaeologists we have about, if somebody has a better idea of what Ms. Echo is hinting at, can you maybe speak up so we can have a normal conversation about this?

This iteration of Miss Jenneth does not possess the memories of the previous iteration. Also, I meant you, as a nation sympathizer. I was not accusing you of the greater fault of being completely integrated.

This actually seems plausible. I could certainly see the Jovians using a method like this to suppress a perceived threat. Fits their modus operande pretty well.

Desperation is a last resort. Look at their actions; cautious, waiting. The eldest son often knows the weaknesses of the younger. A greedy man will do what he can to preserve his own life.

Wake the sleeping relative, or take his tools? If he were in a great enough slumber, it would be easy.

Fight the younger relative, or let him do your bidding? They are young, and would not know any better.

Old and frail, outnumbered? These are but peasants, fit to be ruled; put a ruler on the throne that can do your bidding.

Theoretically speaking, it would make sense, non?

A mother's inheritance. Not just any mother, but the mother. This safe is but a distraction, one that the eldest is using to great effect. Distraction hidden in plain sight. A maze of theories, none touching it's surface.

I just wish you would see the pattern, the beauty. Whether you do or not, I must make an attempt to understand, even if in the end it is futile.

Given the advanced nature of Drifter tech and biological capabilities I don't quite buy that they just want our bodies for some esoteric reason. It strikes me more as an act of desperation rather than desire given how frail our clones are in reality. Perhaps our corpses combined with their implant tech allows them a body not plagued by the Jove sickness? There has to be some reason or they would simply go capture a clone plant and run up a few billion new ones.

Tie this with the ransacked nature of the sleeper caches we've been finding I find myself thinking that they are in serious danger and not from us. If this is the case I am actually more concerned about who and/or what are hunting the Drifters. It is entirely possible that they actually need our help. So far we have acted more as another aggressor and if they are indeed sleepers they won't have a clue who or what we are. They would simply see another threat and if my theory were correct they would see everyone around them as a potential threat.