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CowRocket Void
Of Tears and ISK
ISK.Net
#41 - 2015-05-03 03:52:13 UTC
Dude came back for his loot/ore, I was gonna be nicePirate, then he told me to p*ss off.
https://zkillboard.com/kill/46293641/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/46293670/

Welcome to Adeel, Demerius

bleeding shadow darkness > did i just saw a red procurer? :P
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2015-05-03 04:06:20 UTC
CowRocket Void wrote:
Dude came back for his loot/ore, I was gonna be nicePirate, then he told me to p*ss off.
https://zkillboard.com/kill/46293641/
https://zkillboard.com/kill/46293670/

Welcome to Adeel, Demerius


He was in a pretty foul mood after having his godawful vexor melted inside 30 seconds.

I tried to help him, linked him a proper fit tossed out some pointers. He just told me his friends were gonna get me.

I like that area of space but the local pirate toll booth in Groothese is kind of a hassle.

Like I said, gotta keep an eye on those backwater systems.
Selexid
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#43 - 2015-05-03 16:03:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Selexid
Excellent write up, but those chars you killed are 4 month, 1 month and 1 week old respectively with no fitting/combat experience. For me that would be a zero achiev feeling, but we are all different.
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2015-05-04 02:35:58 UTC
Selexid wrote:
Excellent write up, but those chars you killed are 4 month, 1 month and 1 week old respectively with no fitting/combat experience. For me that would be a zero achiev feeling, but we are all different.



To me it is more of an achievement than dropping a gang of gank t3s on a ratter or site runner.

It is really not hard to figure out how to kill one ship when you have three people. I was flying better fits than that at one month and this is my first EVE character. The game makes it very clear that jumping out of highsec is dangerous. Jumping into lowsec in a bad fit Rattlesnake needs to be stopped before he starts adding officer mods.
Yourmoney Mywallet
Doomheim
#45 - 2015-05-04 04:19:48 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Jumping into lowsec in a bad fit Rattlesnake needs to be stopped before he starts adding officer mods.

Have to disagree here. But that's just me! PirateTwisted
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2015-05-04 06:12:16 UTC
Yourmoney Mywallet wrote:
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Jumping into lowsec in a bad fit Rattlesnake needs to be stopped before he starts adding officer mods.

Have to disagree here. But that's just me! PirateTwisted



Given my relationship with the loot fairy, it would have just made me angry when zero out of ten bling mods dropped.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#47 - 2015-05-04 14:08:25 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Yourmoney Mywallet wrote:
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
Jumping into lowsec in a bad fit Rattlesnake needs to be stopped before he starts adding officer mods.

Have to disagree here. But that's just me! PirateTwisted



Given my relationship with the loot fairy, it would have just made me angry when zero out of ten bling mods dropped.


That's what you deserve for being in the FDU!
Selexid
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#48 - 2015-05-04 19:13:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Selexid
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:


To me it is more of an achievement than dropping a gang of gank t3s on a ratter or site runner.

It is really not hard to figure out how to kill one ship when you have three people. I was flying better fits than that at one month and this is my first EVE character. The game makes it very clear that jumping out of highsec is dangerous. Jumping into lowsec in a bad fit Rattlesnake needs to be stopped before he starts adding officer mods.



Right well 1st of all if you look at their fits you can surely realize they were very new and inexperienced. An yes blobbing involves no skill as well.

On the other hand when I look at your first two losses when you started in dec 2013 and only 9 days in game you were a fitting master:

Atron

Algos

So nine days into the game you knew how to fit even proper rigs. No mix tank; no mix guns. Sorry good sir I will have to call BS on this being your 1st char.
Ria Nieyli
Nieyli Enterprises
SL33PERS
#49 - 2015-05-04 19:46:42 UTC
Selexid wrote:
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:


To me it is more of an achievement than dropping a gang of gank t3s on a ratter or site runner.

It is really not hard to figure out how to kill one ship when you have three people. I was flying better fits than that at one month and this is my first EVE character. The game makes it very clear that jumping out of highsec is dangerous. Jumping into lowsec in a bad fit Rattlesnake needs to be stopped before he starts adding officer mods.



Right well 1st of all if you look at their fits you can surely realize they were very new and inexperienced. An yes blobbing involves no skill as well.

On the other hand when I look at your first two losses when you started in dec 2013 and only 9 days in game you were a fitting master:

Atron

Algos

So nine days into the game you knew how to fit even proper rigs. No mix tank; no mix guns. Sorry good sir I will have to call BS on this being your 1st char.


It's not like proper fits are hard to figure out, there's tons of resources available for new players.
March rabbit
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#50 - 2015-05-04 19:47:49 UTC
Selexid wrote:
So nine days into the game you knew how to fit even proper rigs. No mix tank; no mix guns. Sorry good sir I will have to call BS on this being your 1st char.

Some people never had proper start in the game when you need to make ISK, learn things and get experience from your losses (some of these losses could be embarassing but they ARE your own losses!).

Talked to my friend recently. He started the game in 2012 used buddy invite program. Got 500 million ISK right from start. Jumped to FW and got proper training. Learning implants from begin, pirate battleships after 2 months....

Comparing it to my own start back in December 2009.... I have used triple-tank(!), mixed guns and did stupid things. Helped to test tank in Dodixie, died in WH with 2 ships at the same time Lol

For me starting this way shows the game better than just 'create alt, receive 500 million ISK, go to FW, read fits, read tactics, play'.

The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#51 - 2015-05-04 22:29:53 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Selexid wrote:
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:


To me it is more of an achievement than dropping a gang of gank t3s on a ratter or site runner.

It is really not hard to figure out how to kill one ship when you have three people. I was flying better fits than that at one month and this is my first EVE character. The game makes it very clear that jumping out of highsec is dangerous. Jumping into lowsec in a bad fit Rattlesnake needs to be stopped before he starts adding officer mods.



Right well 1st of all if you look at their fits you can surely realize they were very new and inexperienced. An yes blobbing involves no skill as well.

On the other hand when I look at your first two losses when you started in dec 2013 and only 9 days in game you were a fitting master:

Atron

Algos

So nine days into the game you knew how to fit even proper rigs. No mix tank; no mix guns. Sorry good sir I will have to call BS on this being your 1st char.


It's not like proper fits are hard to figure out, there's tons of resources available for new players.


I can't prove that this is my first character I guess but it's true.

It's not that hard to figure out the basics by listening to older players and looking at killmails that pop up in various channels.

I remember there was a guy in my starting corp that liked to take groups of newbies into level 4 missions in blobs of frigates. That was a learning experience for fitting and also for things like tracking and speed/sig tanking. I was running level 4s solo in a little over a month in a Brutix (albeit slowly and I lost a couple). I also had an unfortunate run in with a ninja salvager wherein I learned some more valuable lessons about tracking (seemed strange to me at the time that a ship as big as a cruiser could get under medium guns) and about how the whole suspect baiting game works.

I also started reading the forums and various blogs, gave up mining on my third day because it was like having a second job, and took a few frigates into lowsec where I survived long enough to learn that almost everything there would in fact try to murder me, and that it's pretty hard to get caught in a frig or dessie if you actually use dscan and don't get unlucky on gates.

TLDR It's not hard to figure out the basics of this game by reading, paying attention, and flying around doing stuff instead of parking a venture in a belt for your first month. The way the game works now, people that do nothing but mine for 3 months and then ship into something they haven't the knowledge or SP to use effectively are going to learn a hard lesson at SOMEONE's hand. May aswell be mine.

This is my first character. Check my post history you'll see that bitching about bittervet elitism and alt-blobs is something of a hobby.
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2015-05-04 22:43:30 UTC
Ria Nieyli wrote:
Selexid wrote:
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:


To me it is more of an achievement than dropping a gang of gank t3s on a ratter or site runner.

It is really not hard to figure out how to kill one ship when you have three people. I was flying better fits than that at one month and this is my first EVE character. The game makes it very clear that jumping out of highsec is dangerous. Jumping into lowsec in a bad fit Rattlesnake needs to be stopped before he starts adding officer mods.



Right well 1st of all if you look at their fits you can surely realize they were very new and inexperienced. An yes blobbing involves no skill as well.

On the other hand when I look at your first two losses when you started in dec 2013 and only 9 days in game you were a fitting master:

Atron

Algos

So nine days into the game you knew how to fit even proper rigs. No mix tank; no mix guns. Sorry good sir I will have to call BS on this being your 1st char.


It's not like proper fits are hard to figure out, there's tons of resources available for new players.



Also I don't know if I would call those masterful fits. They do underscore the fitting challenges facing a new player though.
Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#53 - 2015-05-05 14:55:53 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
Well this is more like what I used to read in 2009, good story and well written.



People actually hunting, using their heads, and fighting instead of "hurrr durrr I gank U boom headshot go back to wow".

C&P risks becoming interesting again with threads like this.


A 1000 dps gecko....

Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Demerius Xenocratus
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#54 - 2015-05-05 21:06:37 UTC
Is there a better way to move this to the Pirate Story Thread besides copy/paste?
Desert Frog
Doomheim
#55 - 2015-05-07 09:51:37 UTC
Demerius Xenocratus wrote:
https://zkillboard.com/kill/46293416/



Even NPCs whore on killmails........

Bedouin of the galactic shipping lanes...

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