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eMerchant
Elemental Cash Agent
#1 - 2015-05-02 00:20:38 UTC
Greetings,

I thought it would be nice to have a NPC service where you can hire their convoys to move your items to one location or more during downtime. It sure would save a lot of time and make the game more profitable for the market side of the game.

Regards,
eMerchant
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2015-05-02 00:26:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
The only reason moving stuff to another location is profitable is that someone has to move it (It takes time and time is isk). Removing this means removing the profit.

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Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#3 - 2015-05-02 00:28:23 UTC
Like downtime is really that much of a problem anymore?

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Solecist Project
#4 - 2015-05-02 00:34:11 UTC
This has been brought up in numerous variations already.

The answer all have in common, is ...

It's a really bad idea. First of all should NPCs not do a players job.
Second should NPcs not take away another players's business. (couriers)
Third does it make no sense that item magically get moved during downtime.


This is never ever going to happen,
because it makes no sense to implement it.

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Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2015-05-02 03:38:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Tiddle Jr
Sounds great !

So for example if you achieved +10.0 standing to an NPC corp they could move your stuff as a favor to you.
Or if you've been running courier missions for ages and became a good fella of npc agent, so could ask him in your turn to move some stuff arround during DT.

+1

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Anhenka
The New Federation
Sigma Grindset
#6 - 2015-05-02 04:20:11 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
Sounds great !

So for example if you achieves +10.0 standing to an NPC corp they could move your stuff as a favor to you.
Or if you've been running courier missions for ages and became a good fella of npc agent, so could ask him in your turn to move some stuff affound during DT.

+1


I fully support this as long as it's true +10.0

None of that pansy rounded garbage.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#7 - 2015-05-02 06:17:46 UTC
That's a great idea. I also think we should implement a service that mines out an entire belt during DT based on mining mission standings. And a service that will rf a pos during DT for the security missions

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Rivr Luzade
Coreli Corporation
Pandemic Legion
#8 - 2015-05-02 06:30:48 UTC
It will come. CCP already announced their rough plans for NPC convoys to ferry stuff around the player built structures to compensate for the fundamental flaw they pose.

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James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#9 - 2015-05-02 06:35:58 UTC
And so long as NPC courier service is
1: Done in space.
2: relatively slow
3: At approximately even or higher risk of loss than player contracts
4:Expensive and finally
5: requires higher than jump clone standings

it seems like this would be a reasonable way to add more lift capability for things like raw veld.

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Karak Bol
Low-Sec Survival Ltd.
#10 - 2015-05-02 06:53:19 UTC
This idea was thrown around on fanfest along the line of "Will basically move like on autopilot, will be T1 haulers (multiple if needed) and cost quiet a lot" so if it happens, I wont use them very much :D
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2015-05-02 10:17:52 UTC
eMerchant wrote:
Greetings,

I thought it would be nice to have a NPC service where you can hire their convoys to move your items to one location or more during downtime. It sure would save a lot of time and make the game more profitable for the market side of the game.

Regards,
eMerchant



What's wrong with getting players to do it for you? It's not like pushx is expensive.
Ix Method
Doomheim
#12 - 2015-05-02 10:33:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Ix Method
Didn't they pretty much announce this at Fanfest? Not during downtime though, we'll get the chance to shoot them down Smile

Danika Princip wrote:
What's wrong with getting players to do it for you? It's not like pushx is expensive.

If NPC haulers provide a hilariously slow service with a 40% chance of your contract just expiring I'm all in.

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Solecist Project
#13 - 2015-05-02 11:17:12 UTC
Ah well, if it means clueless people are more likely to lose their crap ...
... then I'm all for it anyway.

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#14 - 2015-05-02 11:20:08 UTC
I for one will take up convoy popping...

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bunzing heet
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#15 - 2015-05-02 12:03:07 UTC  |  Edited by: bunzing heet
I wud agree to this but not during dt
There shud not be a safe way to transport stuff there must always be a possibility of getting shot down
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Mario Putzo
#16 - 2015-05-02 15:09:30 UTC
I am pretty sure they announced this at fanfest for the most part, but not during downtime, and the NPC couriers can be engaged by other players.

Want it moved quick but at higher risk give it to NPCs to move
Want it moved, and actually arrive, Contract to PCs to move.
James Baboli
Warp to Pharmacy
#17 - 2015-05-02 16:12:00 UTC
Mario Putzo wrote:
I am pretty sure they announced this at fanfest for the most part, but not during downtime, and the NPC couriers can be engaged by other players.

Want it moved quick but at higher risk give it to NPCs to move
Want it moved, and actually arrive, Contract to PCs to move.

Someone was talking about doing a version of freight hauling services with a 100% rate of ascendancy implants to justify a premium over red frog and similar.

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Solecist Project
#18 - 2015-05-02 21:20:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Solecist Project
And the best part....

NPCs aren't capsuleers, so don't get "protected" by CONCORD.

The idea is stupid and brilliant at the same time.
All the sad escapists who refuse to accept reality will use NPCs ...
... and never see their crap arrive. ^_^

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GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#19 - 2015-05-03 09:00:49 UTC  |  Edited by: GankYou
This is bad.

Would remove a whole profession, shrink the economy and genuine ISK-making activity. Instead, join the in-game channel "Haulers Channel" which is frequented by over 250-450 Freelancers and clients at any one time. Smile

All bases are covered for the clients - almost no collateral too large, or reward too little, as well as ample work and opportunities for Freelancers and professionals alike:

  • Tech 1 haulers
  • Tech 2 Deep Space Transports
  • Tech 2 Blockade Runners
  • Shuttles, frigates, fast align ships
  • Freighters
  • Jump Freighters

    • All of the above are used in Hisec, and all of the above are used in Lowsec. Yes, I have had solo freighters jump into LS for me for 250 mil rewards.

    Such player-driven economy and the unending LIFE it generates makes me cry with joy, often at night, when a sudden realisation hits yet again and I am reminded of the stellar beauty of Eve.

    It is better to work and expand on the current very efficient Courier Contract system, and introduce various player-set conditions, such as 4, 6, 8-hour time delivery bonuses. Smile

    I understand the frustration one might feel when a shipment needs to be delivered within the next 1-4 hours, and you're ready to pay hefty premium, but there is almost no guarantee it won't be there in 23 hours instead, as that is the minimum expiration duration currently. Smile

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    Tiddle Jr
    Brutor Tribe
    Minmatar Republic
    #20 - 2015-05-03 09:34:41 UTC
    Why do you think a whole profession should dissapear and economy shrinks?

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