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Have spent some time scanning with the new map.

To say not impressed is a huge understatement.

The lag/delay needs to be completely removed.
Circle needs to be a cursor.
Icons need to more "background" when you have probes out. Currently can make probes very hard to use.
Probe/Dscan/Overview/etc needs to be able to be on top.
Selecting a probe result to display on the map is very buggy, some times they show, sometimes not.


Please have someone spend a couple hours scanning with the new map before making the final decision to remove the old one!

I like scanning, I really do. However removing the old map for the current version of the new map will be terrible for scanners.

I know this is some of that rubbish that echos in empty heads but think about it.
Here is someone trying to make something new.
If you want someone to feel bad about making new things then CCP will dwindle down to safe and boring very quickly.

There is a probe bug where you occasionally can't click on one of the faces of one of the probe cubes, as a different label underneath or near the cube receives the click. Even though the probe face appears to be the frontmost object in the scene.

Just logged in today to notice this new map thing, while it looks pretty sweet i unfortunately found it unresponsive with tendencies towards lagging. Bookmarks and the probe locations stuff covers up to much also. As for the cursor i first thought it was a joke as i heard corpies talk about in on teamspeak but it is indeed more horrible than expected. Noticed we still have the option of using the old map, may bob bless you for this but could you also make it possible to access it through the probe scanner window.

Can't comment on the new starmap as of yet as i can't seem to figure out how to swap into it even.

Hello

Posting to let you all know that we've been receiving an enormous amount of feedback on the new map, particularly concerning the probing interface. Even though we moved the new map in as the default in this release we are still very hard at work trying to improve it. We are certainly glad we left the old map available for you in the mean time while we work to smooth out any discomforts or problems with the new one.

Expect some crucial fixes to be patched in very soon but also please be patient while we go through all the feedback and try to tackle some of the more complex problems. Hopefully with the next major release we will have a probing interface up to snuff but we won't remove the option to use the old map until that's the case.

Thanks for all the good feedback here as well as through bug reports, direct EVE mails and through the CSM.
o/

Hi,

I agree with other people that the zoom in animation when the map opens has to go. Just like the old map, give us an option to disable animations.

I personally like the zooming inertia, but I can see how it can be annoying to others. If you do remove it, make it an option to enable/disable please.

I would like a button that zooms me out to star map and in to solar system with a cardinal north as suggested previously. Using your scroll wheel 5 times and rotating the map takes too long. This won't be as much of an issue if I could have multiple instances of the map opened at a time where one will show me the solar system and another the star map. But having only one map to zoom in and out with between the two takes too long.

Also, I would like the signatures to automatically show on my current solar system when I jump in. Right now if you select a system on the map and zoom into solar system view then jump into that system, you will not see the signatures until you close and open the map again.


Here is a prototype for a new probe interface. The new look blends better with the theme in Eve and it's radial menu (make it look like the radial menu). It will also improves user experience since the interface will not get in the way of the signature you're scanning and will always be on top of any markers and labels and have clicking priority. So no more selecting a map marker and rotating the camera around when you meant to move the scanning probes or not be able to move the probes away from the center of the solar system because of all the cluttered markers on top of their interface. Also, currently if you zoom out the probe interface covers the spheres and the only way to resize the the probe's scanning strength is zoom back in until you see the blue sphere to click and drag them or use the Probe Scanner window, select all probes, right click and select the size. These added steps could be life or death.

Prototype Probe Interface Example

Note that there is no x, y, z grid movement buttons. This is because the interface will move the probes perpendicular to the current camera angle therefore the UI can always face the camera and be easy to click on. You can even add new key bindings to move and scale the drones (up, down, left, right, num+, num-) even faster.

The UI's outer ring allows you to move/position the probes. The buttons on the top, bottom, left and right are obviously for moving the probes only horizontally or vertically. The buttons on the corners let you move the probes in any direction. The inner ring lets you scale the probes. The inner ring can be removed and you can use the corner buttons for scaling probe strength and let the up, down, left, right buttons move the probes in any direction (don't lock to an axis).

Note the cross-hairs on the center of the UI. This cross-hairs is 3D pointing at the cardinal directions of the galaxy. It serves two purposes. One is to pinpoint exactly the center of your current scan. The second is to give the player a reference to orient himself when spinning the camera around while positioning the probes for a scan (left, front, top).

The interface should come with a scaling slider option to increase/decrease the size of the UI. The UI should not scale when you resize the map window.

Do you have any plans to look at the statistics granularity?

It's been mentioned a LOT and I don't recall seeing any notes about it. Apologies if I missed one.

Aside from all the issues with fullscreen, pan speed responseness, probe icons getting in way of your ability to even click the scan resposition square; why the heck are the moons not viewable? You can't zoom in as far now, meaning you can't pick out individual moons for d-scan or navigational purposes.

The new map is not beta. Its more like an epsilon submoron. It locks up the minute you try to move it around. At one point it zoomed off the side of the page and I couldn't get it back to center at all. The old map, you can just grab it an move it around very easily. If I can't even do this, I won't use it. I disabled it immediately.

Issue: Star map. Setting a series of waypoints for a long route.


When setting up a long series of waypoints across a region, for a ghost hunting patrol for example, perhaps a route 60 jumps long, the new map overloads you with unnecessary information that does not add anything of value, but distracts.

Consider, which is better?

Old map or New map

You can clearly see that the old map fulfills the requirements for display of a route without unnecessary eye candy, AND has a somewhat better perspective, better overview of the region.

This is what i would suggest.

1) Add option to turn off constellation highlighting. This is just annoying, have you tried to plot a route around jita? Look at this mess... Map screenshot
2) Add option to control/remove system name fade-in. Sometimes, I dont care about system names. Actually, i dont care about system names MOST of the time. Just take up map screen space.
3) Add option to display all systems as standard dots with NO color. In new map, even actual color of suns is still multi-colored and annoying/distracting. Eye candy, nothing else.
4) Add option to display all jump connections as simple grey lines. No differentiation between regional and standard gates please. all connections should be the same type of line. No multicolored weirdness please.
5) Route animation and color is also distracting. When the stars are colored by security status on new map, everything is just one red line... Look at this, where is my route? Map screenshot This is just godawful.

Bottom line. New map is pretty, shiny, lots of eye candy, but for the love of god, please give me a basic version with just dots and lines and everything turned off. its a map, not a children's coloring book.


Issue. Scanning.

When scanning, I just need sun, planets, orbits in a thin grey line for ease of orientation, and a detailed level of zoom so i can tell which moon, belt or a nearby safespot a ship is at. Currently, I cant even zoom in enough to see where the asteroid belts are.

For scanning, new map is completely unusable until you add a level of zoom that allows me to see which moon/belt a ship is at.

Suggestions.

1) Where is 'You are here' marker? Where is my ship on the system map??? You think i can see the crosshairs circle that looks like everything else?
2) When scanning, I dont need to see stargate connection lines, they just get in the way.
3) the cursor on the new map, the white circle, blends in with the white on the probe cube and arrows. I cant see what I am clicking on.
40 Zoom level, icons. This is jita 4-4 at maximum zoom. There are like 8 stations there, and some 14 moons or so. Map screenshot. So, which ship is where? Where is my ship? Is this usable? No.
4) When scanning, I dont need over-sized icons of physical locations that just get in the way. See previous screenshot.
5) Remove probe icons, unnecessary.

Also, remove all eye candy please, when Im scanning i could not care less about what color the sun is. Just give me schematic outlines of the system.

Bottom line. guys, go back to the drawing table, and rework the scanning component of the map. Completely rework it. System map should contain MINIMUM of information. No colors, no lines, icons AS SMALL AS POSSIBLE, zoom level maximum, more then old map please, ability to center on celestials, combat probes should automatically center on the sun in formation, ideally everything should be semi-transparent, no instant pop-up that blocks half your map.... a cluster of ships in space should be represented by tiny green dots, not brackets, and pop-up should be transparent if it has to appear.