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Gila Fit L4

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FNPD
Doomheim
#1 - 2015-04-29 16:57:48 UTC  |  Edited by: FNPD
Would something like this work for L4s? And safely. My active Ishtar had to warp out of the bonus room in Angel Extravagaza. The hardeners are mission specific. As an example, one X-type EM hardener gets me roughly 77% EM resist (the Gila's biggest hole). Figure I would just warp in, orbit MTU at 10, let drones loose, and focus my missiles on frigates.

[Gila, Gila fit copy]

Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

10MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Pith X-Type EM Ward Field
Pith X-Type Thermic Dissipation Field

Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Light Missile
Rapid Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Light Missile
[Empty High slot]

Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II
Medium Core Defense Field Purger II


Hammerhead II x2
Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2015-04-29 17:19:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
There's really no need for the shiny hardeners.

Switching to Meta 4 launchers (or using a 3% CPU implant to keep your T2 launchers) and dread guristas hardeners will allow you to also fit a Drone Link Augmentor II

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Fix the Prospect!

FNPD
Doomheim
#3 - 2015-04-29 17:30:28 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
There's really no need for the shiny hardeners.

Switching to Meta 4 launchers (or using a 3% CPU implant to keep your T2 launchers) and dread guristas hardeners will allow you to also fit a Drone Link Augmentor II


Thanks for the advice. Should this be able handle high incoming DPS such as the bonus room?
Paranoid Loyd
#4 - 2015-04-29 17:34:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Haven't tried yet myself, but I recall seeing another thread mentioning using a third LSE instead of the Adaptive Invul as it will give you more buffer with out a large hit to recharge. (9EHP/s of recharge)

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

FNPD
Doomheim
#5 - 2015-04-29 17:37:14 UTC  |  Edited by: FNPD
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Haven't tried yet myself, but I recall seeing another thread mentioning using a third LSE instead of the Adaptive Invul as it will give you more buffer with out a large hit to recharge.


I initially had that as my fit, but figured the increase in signature radius would be worse. Also, I noticed that with the that my EHP and recharge were very similar with the adaptive vs the LSE.

Edit: Just checked, looks like the invul is better than another LSE in terms of EHP and recharge, with the bonus of having a smaller signature.
Nycha
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2015-04-29 21:48:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Nycha
The problem of the bonus room are the cruise missile launchers which put out serious dps and cant be avoided. The ships are more or less brawlers, so if you can stay at range (60km++) the incoming damage is minimal.
I dont use a gila for lv4s so this is theory, but if the cruise launcher damage is below your shield regeneration you should be able to clear the room. So I would immediately burn away from the ships and kill the cruise batteries, at least reduce them. You also have to check if the frigs will web you and kill those. If the battleships come close its over.
AFAIK there isnt anymore any good lootdrop left in the bonus room, so clearing is just for kicks or to check out if the ship can handle it.
FNPD
Doomheim
#7 - 2015-04-29 21:57:26 UTC
Due to continuous wardecs I am forced to mission in remote systems with poor LP conversion. I get most of my isk from bounties, so I prefer to clear rooms. I am not a serious missioner though, but sometimes its nice to get some casual and STEADY isk (I do mostly exploration).
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-04-29 23:43:02 UTC
For level 3's on a Gila is RLML the best way to go?
FNPD
Doomheim
#9 - 2015-04-29 23:48:33 UTC
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
For level 3's on a Gila is RLML the best way to go?


Its for L4s, and the RLMLs will be for taking out frigates/cruisers while the mediums chew through the BSs.
Tyberius Franklin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-04-29 23:58:52 UTC
FNPD wrote:
Tyberius Franklin wrote:
For level 3's on a Gila is RLML the best way to go?


Its for L4s, and the RLMLs will be for taking out frigates/cruisers while the mediums chew through the BSs.

If they work at that level it shouldn't be any worse a step down I suppose. Thanks.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2015-04-30 00:26:11 UTC
you could trade your forth DDA for Shield POwer Relay which will increase your recharge rate. also consider faction invul which is less cpu chraging to your overall fitting and add extra resists.

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Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#12 - 2015-04-30 10:17:51 UTC
3 threads about level 4 gila fits, better make a fourth one.
HoruSeth
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2015-04-30 12:09:53 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
you could trade your forth DDA for Shield POwer Relay which will increase your recharge rate. also consider faction invul which is less cpu chraging to your overall fitting and add extra resists.


In one of the other 12.493 Threads about a Level 4 Gila fitting someone was mentioning, that 2x Purger and 1x Extender Rigs works better, because with the extra buffer you survive the inital peak damage in the bonus room of AE.

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afkalt
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2015-04-30 13:39:01 UTC
Nycha wrote:
The problem of the bonus room are the cruise missile launchers which put out serious dps and cant be avoided.


The gun sentries are actually worse because they seem to track like small autocannons.

I suspect a gila fit to handle that room would be inefficient for the rest of the mission so I'd personally (given OP circumstances) take a depot and an alternate fit which can tank the towers until death then refit to finish the room using the efficient fit which got her there.
FNPD
Doomheim
#15 - 2015-05-01 01:08:34 UTC
Always have done L4s as a sniper (either Ishtar or Domi), so just did my first mission (The Blockade) in brawl range and I think maybe got to 79% shield at the lowest.

Thinking of investing in some Augemented drones. Also, my first time using RLMLs (I am a drone/gunnery guy...so I have very little missile skills beyond frigates and SBs), the damage is great for frigates, but planning around that reload time is painful. Also, after being used to sentries, watching my hammers slow boat around was pretty mind-numbing.
Paranoid Loyd
#16 - 2015-05-01 01:42:10 UTC
Yeah, if you are confident in your tank consider switching out a hardener for drone navigation computer II

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Nycha
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2015-05-01 10:30:17 UTC  |  Edited by: Nycha
Because of that reasons I personally would use the ishtar for lv4. Long time ago where no sentries/mjds/aggroswitches/geckos existed I did lv4s with a mwd dual rep domi using heavy drones, also the bonus room of angel extravaganza. It worked, but it was a bit nerve wrecking. My first tries were failures and I had to warp out but later it worked.
Ishtar would be the same tactic with less tank and higher speed. The only difference are the aggroswitches.
Evan Giants
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#18 - 2015-05-04 01:55:13 UTC
[Gila, Gila 85k ehp]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II

10MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II

Drone Link Augmentor II
Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

Valkyrie II x2
Hammerhead II x2
Vespa II x2
Infiltrator II x2


Swap hardeners accordingly
atomic killer
The DARK TROJANS
#19 - 2015-05-04 17:35:56 UTC  |  Edited by: atomic killer
Evan Giants wrote:
[Gila, Gila 85k ehp]
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Damage Control II

10MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II

Drone Link Augmentor II
Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile
Light Missile Launcher II, Inferno Fury Light Missile

Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender II

Valkyrie II x2
Hammerhead II x2
Vespa II x2
Infiltrator II x2


Swap hardeners accordingly


Not a good setup. You don't need extender rigs, purgers work better. Also shield power relay give more tank then a DCU.

For most missions you can use 4 damage mods, 2 hardeners and drone navigation comp.