Wormholes

But this is the wormhole sub forum, did you really expect it to stay on topic?

No game mechanic change is going to pull that off. You can't force folks to want to fight.

A good set of pvp videos would probably do a better job of it. You can draw the pvp minded folks out of LS/FW/null and into your world with a good PR campaign. PVP folks gravitate to where the action is. (giggle - just don't let them all in your corp)

I'm not a total tinfoil gal, but a lot of the proposed 'pvp enhancing' ideas seem more like large farming fleet incentive programs.

TL/DR Corbexx is a bad potato.

I picture you "winning" Charlie Sheen style.

I, too, would like to weigh in on this content creation caca.

The only good to come out of a move away from DPS / EHP walls and POSs with the upcoming Fozziesov mechanic is that it finally puts some cards on the table where you can provoke content without people having to spend hours of bad gameplay grinding structures.

Right now this is mostly a problem in low-class wormholes where dread attacks are not an option. C5's, the RF cycle is merely an opportunity to get cap fights and will work. People can expect that you probably won't make the whole assault phase before content happens. This also happens faster, well, because dreads.

In low-class space, you have to grind in subcaps. Against a hardened Dullstar, this takes a donkey's age. The feasibility of grinding several large towers is beyond the attention span of most experienced bittervet type players who want me to creae content that's not boring as fsck.

Well, sorry dudes, there's got to be some boring stuff right now.

Maybe if the balance is struck correctly between POS defences deterring casual attack (eg; if Fozzie removes gun AI, everyone's borked), POS capacity (so you don't need 20 POS's to bunk down 200 toons), and POS utility, then it could be the case that you can at least ping people's POSs quicker than now, force a timer upon someone for the weekend, troll a goodfight, and then go away.

Of course, now I have to refer to Hidden Fremen's post about batphone cancer. I am currently somewhat relucant to engage in too mch SRS BSNS trolling of groups equal to Prolapse.'s capabilities because I know - from what happened last weekend - that what you attack is just the tip of a giant iceberg by the time you successfully crack the POS, create the timer, and the phones start ringing. Having 80-90 guys respond to one of your scouts is not a way to encourage anyone to get involved in content creation.

Look. We all have friends. Even Winthorp has friends, despite his best efforts. Jester, I'm not so sure. But my point is, sometimes you need to let your friends suffer in their jocks for their idiocies - be it being mouthy dinkuses, fitting a POS badly, leaving a Nag floating in a C1, whatever.

Sometimes, if the people attacking your friends seem evenly matched, on paper, you should let them grow up and learn to stand on their own two feet. let them have a fight, duke it out, maybe lose.

I know it's hard to create content sufficient to let your own 30 man ishtar fleet get some kills, but just responding to batphones all the time is lazy and detrimental. If the big guys stopped blobbing into every 10 v 10 corp spat in w-space, we'd see more 10 v 10 corps going at it.

Personal preference. Large scale brings challenges that small scale doesn't.

I've been at every part of the wormhole food chain, I wouldn't go back to being small if you catch my drift.

I was really good at batphoning :3

But when you only have ~10 uniques you have to be

Allow the creation of a "Bob shrine" in C5/C6 WH's.

One per system. Its a deployable structure, that shows on the overview, and requires a constant supply of frozen corpses to operate (small cargo hold and fast consumption).
Non aggressable, but will de-spawn if quota is not met... The longer it is operational the larger an effect field around the structure becomes (golden light, floating corpses, or wrecks, etc)

Whilst activated, the "shrine of bob" will periodically dispense random favours to the inhabitants of the WH.
This could be in the form of effect bonuses (10% tractor beam range, system wide Cyno inhibitor, 50% bonus to energy neutraliser drone structure hitpoints, etc),
Gifts collected at the shrine (warp disruptors, gyros, ammo, other items blessed of Bob),
and or some other such kind of thing maybe.

I was particually proud of that one... i also thought about 200% dmg buffs to titans, and 3000% bonus to supercarrier speed....

You're fully entitled to liking being in a big Corp but saying being a big Corp is harder than being a small Corp, especially in a thread about pvp, is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. Even from HK.

So, about 2 months ago my group moved from c6/c6 to a c4/c4/c2. Since then, the amount of pvp we get has increased dramatically.

The reason for this increase is (i think) that we simply encouter a lot more people in our chains then we did before. This is not only because the c4/c4/c2 has more connections, but the amount of systems that deserted in the `lower` wormholes is far less. It's hard to find an unoccupied wormhole in these classes.

I don't believe nerfing home sites will solve the issues. I also dont think forcing people to move around will solve it either, because if you make it to hard risk averse people will just not come to wspace at all, and go somewhere else.

I also think the influence of being able to put clones in wspace and not be podded to hs is exaggerated. Don't get me wrong, I would love to be able to switch clones in my Tower, but I don't think it will be the magic that solves all the problems.

Maybe, the solution is to get wspace more populated, or, make it seem that way. It sounds simple, but it obviously isn't. I can think of a number of solutions, if they are good or not, I don't know. Maybe a combination is best, I'll let people smarter then me think about that.

An easy way is removing a number of systems. Instead of this, maybe something smart can be done with connectivity.
- Make some magic that connects `active` systems to other active systems more often, and less to inactive systems. (How to determine what system is active and wich one is not, let's not go there right now)
- Do something special with the shattered systems. I like the fact that you can't roll the frigate wormholes. Maybe not being able to roll shattered wormholes is an interesting option to persue.
- Get some wormholes (shattered for exemple) to have a lot more connections, opening up more area's.

I'm also hoping that fozzy sov will make null exits more interesting. Right now, we ignore most nulls and only go on a roam in a couple of null area's if we happen to connect to them. If null roams are interesting everywhere, then being in wspace might be an extra advantage as you get access to all of nullsec basically.



There are also a couple of mechanics that I think hurt wspace.

- Spawn distance from the wormhole for larger ships. Has been talked about to much already though.

- New signatures popping up automatically in your probe window. You used to need probes and scan regurarly for new sigs to pop up. Changing this back to the old ways, will change nothing for pve'ers that have probes out and take the effort to press scan every now and then.
So, I think there are no downsides to changing this back.

- The POS and hanger roles access stuff is definetly holding a lot of people back in trying out wspace.