EVE General Discussion

I don't like it

I feel its a kick in the nards to the players who bought, won, were gifted, paid LP for ships.

ships not SKINS

Perhaps they don't collect things in Iceland, other than money and Bjork albums, but I'm not sure they or many players on the forum realize what you do when you screw with someones collection.

I hear both sides of the argument and have to agree that players had a reasonable expectation that something they owned was theirs until they lost or disposed of it.
as folks have already pointed out some ships never got flown, they were bling, status, meta.

so in the cases where what was a special edition ship or LP skin it should retain the same characteristics of the original, good till lost, no timer BS just to sell or recover more AUR

future skins?
sure whatever, ships we skinned and bought previously? no,
same characteristics even if its a worse deal (not permanent) that makes them feel like they are more precious

hell if CCP did that in the first place I could overlook having to reskin the few ships I have

I think sometimes CCP forgets the amount of time we've invested in this terrible game

I think it's because players were conditioned to the aspect that while the previous SKINs were permanent, they could be destroyed with the ship. So yes, they're "permanent" now in the sense that they can never be lost - but they do expire.

my non-permanent SKINs are sitting in my redeeming system, waiting for either an opportunity to use them, or CCP to back off of the time-limited thing.

I'm also still hoping that if they're sticking to the pricetag for the permanent ones, they'll open up the application to any hull within the size range.

I know what we can call players who have it all up in their HEADS that SKINs are so important.

Truly hate that i don't have my Guristas Pirate ship collection anymore

Sort it out CCP.... , the 30day skin license is such a stupid idea.

yeah it really baffles me that they didn't handle skins like blueprints with a number of uses on them... even the permanent ones...

ccp must have a longterm plan because this **** makes no sense at all in the current state...

personaly i don't give a **** about skins but yeah, it's stupid :)

Its actually more complicated then this.

You had an enivorment where a **** storm was brewing. It was not one single factor. Because honestly, if things had not come together at that time there would of been no riots (i keep pointing this.. i think i just need to write a blog post or some crap and just link it)

Anyway, i was semi here and semi not at that time, wife had my son, so i researched most of this, which you know kids these days have issues doing i guess.

The riots had more going on then the monicles, MT, and $1k pants. These were just, as stated icing. You had the following factors:

1) Incarnia, which took about 3-5 years to build (first shown at ff07 came out in 11) it was described as one way for years, and if you look up the ambulation project it was amazing. Unfortunatly, what we got was a half assed feature that melted video cards and did not really add anything to eve. This would of been fine, and people would of been like "whatever" i mean we have delt with half assed features for years (pi, FW, incrusions, pos, constalation sov, dominion sov, etc) all part of old CCP, all half assed as they moved on to new shiney. So this alone we would of moved off from.

But add in...

2) Overly expensive microtranactions for stuff that has no cool factor. Sure some people can play space barbie if they want, and that was all fine and dandy. The $70 monicles would not of been an issue, none of incarnia or NES would of been an issue... but then you add in the next set...

3) The stagnation and half assedness of a lot of eve features. As i said, 5 years of devlopment for incarnia, Dust being made, WoD being made. People saw these other things coming, saw incarnia drop and looked at the state of the game and went 'wait... wait.. what?' The last good expantion was apocacryto. Dominon was half assed and broken, the one after (before incarnia) was also broken. Then incarnia drops.. with.. what? no space game play or repairs? Now you start having people questioning CCP path, vision, and wondering with dust coming, and WoD being made.. do we matter anymore?

So these three alone, people would of shurgged. Another ****** incomplete space expnation fine. Incarnia, on its own fine. MT's added after incarnia or on its own, fine. All three? Well now people start wondering WTF is ccp doing ant thinking. Then you add on the final staw...

4) Greed is good. Someone in CCP leaked an internal memo. Supposidly one of many, but this one stated there idea to add gold ammo, new ships that you can only get from NES and for Aurum. Basicly a 'why don;t we go p2w? we can make $$$ lets be greedy' As i said, this alone would not of caused alot of issues. But would of make people question, might of brought on a thread naught, but this and with the monicals, eve negelect, and a ****** expantion... was like throwing a moltiof cocktail on an already dry, ready to burst feild.

All 4... plus ccp not calming things down quickly, and the years of frustration, annoyance, and wondering WTF is ccp doing, caused the player base to explode.

It was not incarnia, mt, greed is good, or neglect... i twas all 4, at once.

Why are people not caring about MT now? because eve, the space game, is getting new stuff. The dev time is not wasted. And its really optional. People felt liked too and cheated in the riots. that was not a good place for ccp to be.

If this had not happened, if ccp had fixed one of the three, we might have WiS complete... but they didn't. And as i said before, i fully believe it is time to finish WiS and make it something. or rip it from the game.

But there ya go.

If only CCP had a place where dev blogs could be posted that explain new features in complete detail.

1. The Police skin was bought with AUR not a drop in game.

2. The previous system was always represented as a pilot program subject to change.

skins go on ships, and don't get locked away in a broom closet