EVE General Discussion

And not watching local...boom! dead! Next?

No amount of EFT warrioring is going to save you from not paying attention.

There is value in both but for different things.
Orbitting will make it more difficult (not impossible) for ships like the "standard" gank-catalyst, with short range, high damage weapons and no prop mod, to make the kill within the time limit imposed by CONCORD spawns; it is best suited to the Venture (though it is possible to use on other miners IIRC) and in Highsec. In low-sec, where there is no time limit and the ships used are far more varied, it is far less valuable.
Aligning (moving towards a warpable at a minimum of 75% top speed) allows you to warp out as soon as you give the command. Unless you're bumped out of alignment or suffer from a lag spike or server fart you should be "safe" but of course moving limits the time your mining lasers are in range (if you're moving at 75m/s (top speed 100m/s) and you start at 10km from the roid you may only have 67 seconds in range and your lasers will not yield if they are not in range at the end of the cycle...).
Of course you can position yourself to overfly the belt, starting 15km beyond the 'roid and giving you about 30km of alignment before the 'roid is out of range or about 6 minutes (2 strip cycles) of mining.

This is where the Higgs Anchor Rig comes in.
Although it increases your mass the rig reduces your top speed by 75% (from the 100m/s above to 25m/s for example), drastically increasing the time you're in range.


Low Friction Nozzle Joints will reduce your align time but that is of negligable value in this case; a miner intends (generally) enough loiter-time at a location to make the align time entirely negligable. IIRC the Higgs rig's mass increase is designed to make prop mods more difficult to use and bumping (out of range) less powerful and comes with a significant inertia reduction which should counter it (meaning align time is not drastically increased). But its more valuable impact in this case is the cut in top speed.

You are correct on many points, and I am aware of it. I was alone, mining, not alone in sector. She was in and out multiple times. I looked her over "info" and watched my dscan. My dscan was not set to reach the gates, a failure I won't make twice. Actually I probably will, but that's beside the point. I became, as I admitted, "comfortable" with her presence.

My guess is, she was already with me in belt, cloaked.

When her assistant came into local, I hit "info" (again no ship review) and without the skill to separate my eyes like a chameleon, while I glanced over his info, she was on me like white on rice. I'm not denying my fault here. Again, had I instead had dscan set and just saw the type of ship I would have hit warp a lot sooner.

I was aligned, but stationary.

Now, an extra point. I did not mention this because honestly, regardless of what else is going on, I still need to be prepared. There were 5 rats in belt. I was busy, there were plenty of distractions, a lot of red lights, guns, etc. I had his info in front of me. Thus partly why I asked about my ship fitting rather than "what did I do wrong". I didn't try to recall my drones, I didn't try to get one extra tick of ore, I didn't even try to grab any of the floating loot in cans near me. I tried to run, like I knew I needed to.

Basically, your line of thinking of your fit to save your self is actually the wrong way to go. Do not rely too heavily on mechanics and EFT. Rely more on wits and your surroundings. The biggest mistake most make in this game is to rely so heavily on the mechanics they lull themselves into a false sense of security.

That is why you see so many whine posts about AFK cloakers, bad man touched me in the no no place, Skill point gaps etc etc.

Head on swivel, pay attention to your surroundings, do not trust ANYONE, do not get comfortable with ANYONE. Understand that anyone with half a chub and the ability to give missile will try to push your **** in.

There are ways to kill hot droppers.
I'll point you in the right direction
- enough damage to kill the cyno fast
- mine under a "drone umbrella"
- tackle the shiny ships
- a cloaked ship can see where they run
- ratters can use omni tanks.
- everyone in system and next door can be in the same fleet, so can the people linked by a jump bridge or running sites in a worm hole.

Trouble is that people think short term, are selfish and illogical, expecting others to come and sort their problems out for them.

If there is one person in local that you cannot see on D-scan or confirm as in station then get safe. You are a sitting target for blops drop o' clock.

I admire your inquisitive attitude though. That is great :)

> sansha

> armour repair

> not easily beatable

> aligned and still caught

I question the legitimacy of the OP.

I am entertained, go on...

1. sansha: correct my fit was for holding off rats, not people, and had been working without issue.
2. armour repair: nope, I didn't have one. Sansha rats were not hitting my armor, I saw no need.
3. not easily beatable: me or the rats? I'll take this as a compliment either way thank you.
4. aligned and still caught: yep, sad but true, see reply #25, I was admittedly distracted by all the pretty lights and stationary.



I assume you're not questing my birth by wedlock, nor my heredity. Mind you I can trace my lineage back to Kings and Queens of Scotland and Denmark.

So I assume you question my story, perhaps I'm simply trolling by posting false stories?

You mentioned this before.

I'm curious. In my venture last night I grabbed a lot of kernite, veld, scor, and so forth. It produced a good deal of ore and mineral, but all the lower minerals (name escape me) were absent.

Is the profit of high more based on quantity of higher minerals and less danger? As I'd have assumed (perhaps wrongly) that the lower minerals had a greater value.

I admit, the 30m for the ship and fitting I lost was killer, but on the flip side I pulled in 97m in mineral sales. 113m if I count the sale of the True Sansha thingy I sold.

EDIT:

Wait, perhaps I misread. You said compared to other things, not specifically compared to hisec mining. My apologies. I have been told things like missions and such can be far more profit.

Last night on my main char I was mining a WH ore anomaly with my prospect. Stopped paying attention to D-Scan and was jumped by a stealth bomber. I honestly thought I had lost the ship but then two things happened:

1. For some reason the SBs damage output wasn't that great and I was able to tank it reasonably well - though I had a decent shield tank fit, and

2. My ship was faster (+ 500mps) and so got out of range of his disrupter, MWD/cloaked and ran to the WH exit.

Nice ship but yeah it's no good for handling belt rats.