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Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#21 - 2015-04-28 20:42:27 UTC
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Jennifer Starfall wrote:
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Um. In this case I sort of have to agree with Mr. Thessalonia.

We're not helping things by being this way. ... not that it's probably anything easily stopped.


Last night, Circadian Seekers pursued pilots from Scope Works across multiple systems.

Let's let that sink in a moment.

Scope Works has been leading the charge against these things with guns blazing. Are you at all surprised?


If it weren't for Anslo and Scope Works we would not have had any drifter bodies to work with.

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Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#22 - 2015-04-28 20:44:01 UTC
Jennifer Starfall wrote:
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Jennifer Starfall wrote:

Last night, Circadian Seekers pursued pilots from Scope Works across multiple systems.

Let's let that sink in a moment.

Scope Works has been leading the charge against these things with guns blazing. Are you at all surprised?


You're missing the point. They're chasing across gates now.

Might not be the case if the Capsuleer Handshake wasn't genocide.
Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#23 - 2015-04-28 20:45:37 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Jennifer Starfall wrote:
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Um. In this case I sort of have to agree with Mr. Thessalonia.

We're not helping things by being this way. ... not that it's probably anything easily stopped.


Last night, Circadian Seekers pursued pilots from Scope Works across multiple systems.

Let's let that sink in a moment.

Scope Works has been leading the charge against these things with guns blazing. Are you at all surprised?


If it weren't for Anslo and Scope Works we would not have had any drifter bodies to work with.

True. Do you think the beginning of a war is justified in order to perform an autopsy on a stranger?
Jev North
Doomheim
#24 - 2015-04-28 20:47:10 UTC
Count me in on the "stop poking them with sticks, it's bound to cause trouble" camp.

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Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#25 - 2015-04-28 20:54:17 UTC
Do not fear!

CONCORD will handle this and all dangers to the Empire with the same alacrity and dedication that it did to Sansha Kuvakei and Bloody Omir!




...wait...

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GankYou
9B30FF Labs
#26 - 2015-04-29 05:01:08 UTC
I was in Apanake, Genesis region earlier last night, and two Drifter battleships were spotted surveying the SoE station there.

A single Abaddon-class battleship engaged them and became space dust despite Oneiros cruiser support.

Yeah. Cool

...And they all crave one thing - ISK. ¤

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Erica Dusette
Division 13
#27 - 2015-04-29 07:17:50 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Scope Works has been leading the charge against these things with guns blazing. Are you at all surprised?


If it weren't for Anslo and Scope Works we would not have had any drifter bodies to work with.

Not to detract from Anslo or his organization's significant efforts, but perhaps a broader vision would be helpful.

Drifters have, in fact, been dying by the score to pilots who're simply less ... "public" with their presence.

In fact I know of pilots personally who have solo'd Drifters regularly.

In frigates.

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Kahar Dex
Imperial Dreams
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#28 - 2015-04-29 09:47:25 UTC
Intrusion into Amarr space without official clearance is an issue of deep concern regarding the security of our home-worlds.

This must be discussed.

His Eminence Cardinal Kahar Dex of the CVA and Imperial Dreams. Follow The Cardinal: @kahardex
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#29 - 2015-04-29 12:24:35 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Jennifer Starfall wrote:
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Um. In this case I sort of have to agree with Mr. Thessalonia.

We're not helping things by being this way. ... not that it's probably anything easily stopped.


Last night, Circadian Seekers pursued pilots from Scope Works across multiple systems.

Let's let that sink in a moment.

Scope Works has been leading the charge against these things with guns blazing. Are you at all surprised?


If it weren't for Anslo and Scope Works we would not have had any drifter bodies to work with.


Fun fact: If it weren't for Anslo and his "Do whatever stops me from being bored and angry for five minutes" attitude they might never have gotten the Jovian body parts they originally needed.
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#30 - 2015-04-29 15:38:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Mizhir
Do you honestly think that we started this? This has been something underway for years and it has all happened without us knowing anything. Capsuleers have invaded anoikis for years and killed countless of sleeper vessels while harvesting their technology and parts to develope new weapons to combat eachother. And now that they show up on our doorstep you question our search for knowlegde about them. Capsuleers did only bring war to their home. Why would they do otherwise?

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Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#31 - 2015-04-29 15:42:19 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Do you honestly think that we started this?


Mizhir wrote:
We did only bring war to their home. Why would they do otherwise?


Am I missing something or did you answer your question?
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#32 - 2015-04-29 15:43:47 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Do you honestly think that we started this? This has been something underway for years and it has all happened without us knowing anything. Capsuleers have invaded anoikis for years and killed countless of sleeper vessels while harvesting their technology and parts to develope new weapons to combat eachother. And now that they show up on our doorstep you question our search for knowlegde about them. We did only bring war to their home. Why would they do otherwise?


They were just looking around until we started killing them because we like to look at pretty explosions.

Seems pretty clear cut to me who's at fault here.
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#33 - 2015-04-29 15:45:35 UTC
Erica Dusette wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Scope Works has been leading the charge against these things with guns blazing. Are you at all surprised?


If it weren't for Anslo and Scope Works we would not have had any drifter bodies to work with.

Not to detract from Anslo or his organization's significant efforts, but perhaps a broader vision would be helpful.

Drifters have, in fact, been dying by the score to pilots who're simply less ... "public" with their presence.

In fact I know of pilots personally who have solo'd Drifters regularly.

In frigates.


True. It is the nature of many capsuleers to kill. So the conflict began even before Anslo started to dream about our project. However noone else than us have managed to acquire a body and with the prices we have been offered for drifter body parts I doubt that anyone would hide the fact that they have one.

I have seen cases where capsuleers used ECM or longrange weaponry to defeat the drifters yet it has shown that they have been able to adapt.

As for frigates. I haven't seen any evidence for that.

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Terminus Antollare
Un4seen Development
Goonswarm Federation
#34 - 2015-04-29 15:49:29 UTC
I've come across 2 Observatories in Sinq. Was attacked at one (0.8 sec) and while mining asteroids in 1.0 was surrounded by Seekers. They scanned asteroids, then my ship, then warped off. At the actual observatories, hanging around more than a minute or so brought several hostile drifters.
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#35 - 2015-04-29 15:50:22 UTC
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
Do you honestly think that we started this? This has been something underway for years and it has all happened without us knowing anything. Capsuleers have invaded anoikis for years and killed countless of sleeper vessels while harvesting their technology and parts to develope new weapons to combat eachother. And now that they show up on our doorstep you question our search for knowlegde about them. We did only bring war to their home. Why would they do otherwise?


They were just looking around until we started killing them because we like to look at pretty explosions.

Seems pretty clear cut to me who's at fault here.


So you think that the countless of sleeper vessels being destroyed in anoikis is completely irrelevant? This was not started by the capsuleers who hunted down the Circardian Seekers or the Drifters. It was started by the ones who went into their space.

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Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#36 - 2015-04-29 15:53:51 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Tiberious Thessalonia wrote:
Mizhir wrote:
Do you honestly think that we started this? This has been something underway for years and it has all happened without us knowing anything. Capsuleers have invaded anoikis for years and killed countless of sleeper vessels while harvesting their technology and parts to develope new weapons to combat eachother. And now that they show up on our doorstep you question our search for knowlegde about them. We did only bring war to their home. Why would they do otherwise?


They were just looking around until we started killing them because we like to look at pretty explosions.

Seems pretty clear cut to me who's at fault here.


So you think that the countless of sleeper vessels being destroyed in anoikis is completely irrelevant? This was not started by the capsuleers who hunted down the Circardian Seekers or the Drifters. It was started by the ones who went into their space.


Oh, I see. You think I am blaming you for the whole mess. No, I am blaming capsuleers.

My comments in regards to Anslo were in regards to his posts stating that he was encouraging people to give "Hilen Tukoss" the Jovian Body Parts even though the whole thing was suspicious as hell, and going so far as to say he would blow up anyone trying to stop "Hilen Tukoss" from getting the body parts because "He wanted to see something happen"
Mizhir
Devara Biotech
#37 - 2015-04-29 15:58:50 UTC
Either way. I'm not going to sit idle as they get stronger.

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Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#38 - 2015-04-29 16:06:05 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
Either way. I'm not going to sit idle as they get stronger.


Oh sure, that's a great idea. Lets take a mistake a compound it. Surely this is the way to peace and understanding.
Tiberious Thessalonia
True Slave Foundations
#39 - 2015-04-29 16:08:29 UTC
Jennifer Starfall wrote:
Evi Polevhia wrote:
Jennifer Starfall wrote:

Last night, Circadian Seekers pursued pilots from Scope Works across multiple systems.

Let's let that sink in a moment.

Scope Works has been leading the charge against these things with guns blazing. Are you at all surprised?


You're missing the point. They're chasing across gates now.


For the record, this reads to me as "Oh no, they have figured out how to use the things we use multiple times a day, now they must die."
Erica Dusette
Division 13
#40 - 2015-04-29 16:45:46 UTC
Mizhir wrote:
True. It is the nature of many capsuleers to kill. So the conflict began even before Anslo started to dream about our project. However noone else than us have managed to acquire a body and with the prices we have been offered for drifter body parts I doubt that anyone would hide the fact that they have one.

Well I put it to you that you don't actually have one.

All I've seen is a short holo-reel that anyone with limited skill in the field could put together, and the "findings" released within it quite plausibly simple deduction and theory. The possible motivation behind pulling off such a stunt is obvious, especially when you seem dubiously keen to be pro-actively aggressive toward the Drifters and encourage others to be the same.

How about a holo-image of the corpse in storage inventory...?

Mizhir wrote:
As for frigates. I haven't seen any evidence for that.

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Would you like to be put in touch with the applicable pilot for first-hand evidence?

If you look around IGS it would already be very obvious. As I say, a broader vision can be helpful.

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