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Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
Insidious.
#101 - 2015-04-28 20:58:50 UTC
If the icons need to fit in with a sci fi theme why is the armor icon still a medieval knight?
Angelos Diablos
D.I.L.I.G.A.F.
#102 - 2015-04-28 21:09:49 UTC
tis not rage that made me comment, merely an observation... I agree the t3 desis where overpowered, CCP should not be so hasty to release something until they are satisfied with product is all
Rayzilla Zaraki
Yin Jian Enterprises
#103 - 2015-04-28 21:27:07 UTC
The map works better, but still not as effective as the old one.

Icons for celestials and even the probes obscure the icons for the anomalies and signatures. Make the latter transparent, maybe? Smaller? Something.

The zooming in and out is pretty squishy. I get that CCP is going for a more modern feel, but it tends to slow down use of the map for scanning.

Both these issues caused a routine system scan to be noticeably longer. Not by much, but enough to notice.

It also has issues with loading from time to time and it doesn't automatically switch systems as I jump. Not sure if it supposed to, but it'd be nice.

On the plus side, I like that it is a resizable and moveable window and it is significantly spiffier than the old one.

Gate campers are just Carebears with anger issues.
Ikonia
Royal Amarr Expeditions
#104 - 2015-04-28 21:28:13 UTC
As demanded by post closer

here is my feedback:


  • Ship skin changes have not been accordingly measured to impact on ingame market
    • Former permanent skins to single ship are now limited to
    a.) time limited 30 day temporary skins when ship is smaller than cruiser
    b.) ships with skin on market had much higher price
    c.) ships had their skin removed and were taken off of the market and lost value
    d.) no compensation for taxes to market orders
  • Ship skin changes have not all undergone same changes
    • Former permanent skins to single ship have been removed
    a.) without any compensation for PaintJob BPC if ship is bigger than cruiser
    b.) ships had their skin removed and were taken off of the market and lost value
    c.) no compensation for taxes to market orders
  • Ship skin changes have not been applied to all BPCs
    • a.) Thrasher ship PainJob BPC is not involved at all


Might sound ridiculous for some, but isnt. Im not going to support this itemization procedure for New Eden Store.
Mashie Saldana
V0LTA
WE FORM V0LTA
#105 - 2015-04-28 21:36:57 UTC
How do I remove that "opportunities" icon in the upper left corner? It's annoying as hell.

How to win EVE
Rab See
Stellar Dynamics
#106 - 2015-04-28 21:46:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Rab See
Not liking directional/combat probing on new map. Anyone testing this stuff. Its nigh on pointless with lack of zoom.

Why are the Minmatar skins so crap? They are barely noticeable compared to the original. Effectively pointless.
Sniper Smith
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#107 - 2015-04-28 21:57:18 UTC
Entity wrote:
Tasirma wrote:
Lara Divinity wrote:
allrite new update new problems all fine n good with the new ship skin system and all but why r my previous permanent skinned ships stripped of there skins n my bpc skins converted to "30day timed skins"???
permanent should stay permanent


the only skin's that are 30 day are pirate faction, everything else is permanent, there was a Dev Blog about it not long ago when the SKIN's were announced for this patch.


Irrelevant. I have to agree with the people complaining about this. The faction skins that were ingame already should have been permanent. People bought these ships on the fair assumption that they were not going to lose their paintjob.

If not permanent, then at least until destruction of the ship. Just as the originals were.

I had a Bloodraider Proph that I used for some missions, maybe only a few times a month, but it was never destroyed, it had the skin since one of the first days, now for no good reason that's been explained, I need to purchase it every 30 days?


I'm also not a huge fan of injected skins being permanent.. I do agree they shouldn't be easy to remove and trade again, but there should be a way.. like a PLEX to un-inject a skin. I mean last night I could run missions in my Quafe Megathron, dock up, and then sell it at full price. Today, either I can use the ship, or I can save it to sell, I no longer get the choice.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#108 - 2015-04-28 22:03:25 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
If the icons need to fit in with a sci fi theme why is the armor icon still a medieval knight?

That is a very good question.

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#109 - 2015-04-28 22:07:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Zappity
Angelos Diablos wrote:
tis not rage that made me comment, merely an observation... I agree the t3 desis where overpowered, CCP should not be so hasty to release something until they are satisfied with product is all

When I read about balancing some ships to be better against ECM and lock out to 400km I thought they were announcing the Caldari T3D stats. Then I saw it was just the Drifters.

I understand that CCP wants people excited about new ships but honestly the Garmur, Orthrus and T3D stats are not the right way to go. It hasn't been power creep, it has been power leap!

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#110 - 2015-04-28 22:09:11 UTC
Sniper Smith wrote:

If not permanent, then at least until destruction of the ship. Just as the originals were.

I had a Bloodraider Proph that I used for some missions, maybe only a few times a month, but it was never destroyed, it had the skin since one of the first days, now for no good reason that's been explained, I need to purchase it every 30 days?


I'm also not a huge fan of injected skins being permanent.. I do agree they shouldn't be easy to remove and trade again, but there should be a way.. like a PLEX to un-inject a skin. I mean last night I could run missions in my Quafe Megathron, dock up, and then sell it at full price. Today, either I can use the ship, or I can save it to sell, I no longer get the choice.

It has been explained.
If loot drop skins were permanent, after a while the loot would become worthless. By the loot drop skins being temporary value is maintained.
And while you never needed to repurchase the ship, now you can fly prophecies with blood raider colours and get them blown up and not have to buy a new one, just apply the same skin again instead within that 30 days. So you lost some, but you also gained some.
David Therman
#111 - 2015-04-28 22:15:59 UTC
I don't know if anyone's mentioned this already, but in regards to scanning; with the old map, when you started scanning a site (first sweep), sometimes you'll get the actual location and a false positive, but both would be detectable. With the new map (the current default for probe scanning as of today), only one of these appears, and if it's the false positive, there's no way to determine where the actual marker is short of blundering into it while scanning something else.

Thankfully, the old map still functions, so it's not a significant problem as long as both are still usable. A corpmate also noted that he was having similar issues, so it's not an isolated case.
Marius Labo
Licence To Kill
Mercenary Coalition
#112 - 2015-04-28 22:16:27 UTC
Bring back the ability for Titles linked to Roles to be displayed. It wasn't a feature that was broken.

Is there a source for where this was discussed or wanted prior?

See: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=5705498#post5705498 - from that post forward.

It seems the community didn't really ask for this feature to be removed. Add it back, and for those that feel there is sensitive data involved in the display of a Title allow a toggle for CEOs/Directors. Seems like an easy reversion and actual improvement if you add the ability to toggle it.

When you don't act or seek on stakeholder feedback... you create more work for nothing.

Recruiting Director

Mercenary Coalition Forums

E-UNI Wiki
Halets Thellere
Balamb Garden
#113 - 2015-04-28 22:22:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Halets Thellere
Ven Phenom wrote:
So CCP stated a rather small update patch. I wonder how does CCP calculate small?

6 GB Update? LOL

Edit:

Also thanks guys for making me have to use the repair tool to get your launcher to operate correctly and allow me to update. This happens every single time you release a patch. I generally avoid the launcher now just to avoid the headaches. You'd think your software would work correctly on a Win7 system by now.

2nd Edit:

I have yet to see the online store inside of the game. I've seen many posts about how it doesn't seem to work on Win7 and there has not been an issue resolution to that to date. However we get SKINS!!! Come on now just make your software work correctly. Is that too much for my $15 per month?


THIS!^

I don't know what you guys are doing but every time you release new "content" the players have to FIX the game and then once word gets around we can play. I feel that you are very lucky to have such a loyal fan base because I don't know too many people who would put up with this.
Fierar
AlcoDOTTE
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#114 - 2015-04-28 22:35:00 UTC
[quote=Halets Thellere][quote=Ven Phenom]So CCP stated a rather small update patch. I wonder how does CCP calculate small?

6 GB Update? LOL

MS has moved past Win7, so should we all.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/lifecycle
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#115 - 2015-04-28 22:39:46 UTC
Halets Thellere wrote:


THIS!^

I don't know what you guys are doing but every time you release new "content" the players have to FIX the game and then once word gets around we can play. I feel that you are very lucky to have such a loyal fan base because I don't know too many people who would put up with this.

You know what's funny every update....
I see complaints like this and they almost always have the words 'I always avoid the launcher' in them.
Maybe, just maybe, the problem is operator caused ignoring the launcher the rest of the time. Just a stray thought that launching the game via the launcher actually is important.
Halets Thellere
Balamb Garden
#116 - 2015-04-28 22:45:07 UTC
Nevyn Auscent wrote:
Halets Thellere wrote:


THIS!^

I don't know what you guys are doing but every time you release new "content" the players have to FIX the game and then once word gets around we can play. I feel that you are very lucky to have such a loyal fan base because I don't know too many people who would put up with this.

You know what's funny every update....
I see complaints like this and they almost always have the words 'I always avoid the launcher' in them.
Maybe, just maybe, the problem is operator caused ignoring the launcher the rest of the time. Just a stray thought that launching the game via the launcher actually is important.


You know what else is funny? I never said that and I actually agree with you, I don't want to avoid the launcher, I want to use it but with this many people having issues you would think after a while that it's the software not the users. I have worked in qa for software comps and I know this. If we received this many complaints every time we made changes we will be finding some new programmers. :-)
Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#117 - 2015-04-28 22:52:15 UTC
Parah Salin McCain wrote:
ARE YOU PEOPLE DENSE?

THE SKINS WERE NEVER PERMANENT BEFORE. IF YOU LOST YOUR SHIP YOU LOST YOUR SKIN.

Are you dense? Some people liked having a collection hanger of all the ships in the game, meaning they where never destroyed. Now due to their 'limited 30 day' bullshit, people can't...

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#118 - 2015-04-28 22:53:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Nevyn Auscent
Halets Thellere wrote:

You know what else is funny? I never said that and I actually agree with you, I don't want to avoid the launcher, I want to use it but with this many people having issues you would think after a while that it's the software not the users. I have worked in qa for software comps and I know this. If we received this many complaints every time we made changes we will be finding some new programmers. :-)

Even if the complaints started with...
"Hi, I have a problem with your software, I've been ignoring the standard launch instructions you gave, and forcing it to start from a different EXE for months, and now I'm having some issues."
That's what I mean by operator caused issues.

Seraph Essael wrote:

Are you dense? Some people liked having a collection hanger of all the ships in the game, meaning they where never destroyed. Now due to their 'limited 30 day' bullshit, people can't...
And some people wanted to go out and fly the skinned ships in space, but didn't want to lose a one use only ship that was very hard to replace, and those people can now actually do that thanks to the '30 day bullshit' as you put it. So for those people who actually undock and fly around in space, the skins are a great change being 30 days. I know which group of people I want to support if I have to make a choice between hanger ship spinners and people who undock.
Whisker Lickins
Starpaws Intergalactic Cat Herding Collective
#119 - 2015-04-28 23:19:13 UTC

I had a rorqual ORE edition parked in a POS ship maintenance area. The rorqual is still there, but the skins is gone, I looked everywhere.

Anyone have any idea where it could be?
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#120 - 2015-04-28 23:23:17 UTC
Whisker Lickins wrote:

I had a rorqual ORE edition parked in a POS ship maintenance area. The rorqual is still there, but the skins is gone, I looked everywhere.

Anyone have any idea where it could be?

Check Corp HQ.