Player Features and Ideas Discussion

It's not an exploit, it's just a relic of a mechanic that was put in place when PCU-count was one-third what it is now.

Solution: More--many more--lab-slots needed.

That said, there are still a (very) few copy- and ME-research slots at worst queued up for just a few days to a week--Hell, they're even open sometimes, though that's luck of the draw. You just need to travel to the arse-end of nowhere losec to find them, so go through different regions, and fire up the covops cloaky for a road-trip.

Just as an added note, the reason I think we should make the labs infinite is because it would be also easier for CCP in the long run, if you just added more labs and the subscriber base grows they're going to have to keep adding and checking, if it's infinite then they could just fix it and forget about it.

Unless you're of course suggesting that CCP code it so that there's a lab for one player in each system, which I think would be possible but pretty ridiculous to do I just think this way would be a lot simpler and again, gives something for rich players to **** away their ISK on.

Oh bloody hell, Why don't people actually read posts?

Don't you know how expensive it is for a new character to run a POS by themselves and how long it will take? Not to mention the loyalty points you need to grind just to get the standings with the right empire faction so you can use it in high security space.

Of course you do, you're just posting without reading properly, I shouldn't have to pay 300 million ISK just to do something as simple as copying blueprints.



Quoted a section that already answers your.... Whatever that post was for your convenience.

I mentioned before yet again that I was already in a low populated system, the rest of the options are unrealistic and I don't want to be with an alliance, as for waiting in line for a month, no thanks, by that time I'll have trained for an orca.

The only options I have realistically are:

. ***** about this problem until CCP fix it, because it is a huge design oversight

. Avoid researching altogether and focus entirely on mining skills which is a shame because I'd really like to get into blueprints at some point

Also you don't need to worry, trust me, If I was hostile anyone would recognise it :P I just get irritated when people blatantly don't read posts and then argue with me as if I haven't, I've met some total wankers who've done that type of thing before.

It's a problem and it needs fixing, that's what we're supposed to be using this forum for anyway isn't it?

yeah that's not realistic either lol, considering I can't even afford a hulk yet I don't have enough of a surplus to go waltzing into Lowsec.

That's what is called an exploit you halfwit, next time you try to call me a noob don't detail exactly how people abuse the crap out of this system and end up proving me entirely right.

I have every right to complain as a paying customer if someones using an exploit like that to gain an unfair advantage over other players.

Wait, what? How is this an exploit? it's people using the labs as they're intended to be used. Research takes time.

wait, back up... where's the exploit?

there is none lol


Poeple who do this get the same wait times. I am a public user. The indy does me/pe fixing, other chars do copy work. I hit the same wait times op does. My only edge, an edge I paid for running 2 accounts sometimes when plxexing not possible since one char I did pvp in 0.0 and had weekends of losses in the hundreds of milliions), is I get dedicated ME research and copeies at the same time. No edge here....ME slots are different from copy slots. guy who has several ME alts....put his time in. Has 3 ME alts, took the time to learn metallurgy 5 3 times (i personallyy hated that train on jsut one char lol).



But I don't complain about it. No time or desire to maintain a pos, put my stuff in, get it when its done. Still earn some good isk from the process. OP you will have to think ahead and plan....how you make this work.

I for example know caps in the future for me. So many moons ago, I got fighter bpos'. had them a year, and not till last month have they actually been in my hanger. ME/PE research qeues (actual research or wating) for a year. thats long term planning.
When I am cap able, will make my own fighters plus overage for sale. Currenly check markets and hit fighters when its good. Year planning paying off a bit now, get better returns when I go back to 0.0 and lose fighters.

Example of short term planning from recent patch. Those in the know read dev blogs, cruise sisi. they saw new t2 items, t2 items not getting bpos'. Weeks out, copying of the t1 bpo's began. New patch, items hit, and in the invents went. this is how earyl sellers of t2 siege, bomb launchers, etc made some good isk. Th3ey got day 2 sales form people who will pay more to have the new sexy items and not wait a month for isk warring to stabilize the price.

Indy is about planning and taking chances. Publlc you have to add some prep time to it. Plan your research 1-2 months out. for ME. PE slots are easy to get with little to no wait. Copies with travel time you can find easy 2 weeks or less waits (all in empire, I do this often, change regions and find better wait times). Me, my consistent isk makers are always in copy. Worst case is my t2 bs'....month long copy for max run to run decrypts and 2 week wait time (usually find a station that has a week though). But it works out....if invention gods like me, I get enough t2 bpc's total it takes a month to run them out and bam...in come the new copies.

my bad...should have clarified or use a joke tag lol.