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interdiction is over, oxytopes still high?

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Jarnis McPieksu
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#21 - 2011-12-26 12:47:04 UTC
Jack Dant wrote:
Jarnis McPieksu wrote:
Jack Dant wrote:
Interestingly, while oxytopes are not coming down, the gallente fuel blocks are selling below market cost. They are priced as if oxytopes were at 700-800 instead of 1100.


Blocks from Christmas gifts, predicting future Oxytope prices when blocks become relevant a month from now?

Ah, good point, I was wondering why so many orders were exactly 1000 units Oops. Still, the cost of building a gallente block at current buy order prices is 19,180 isk, and there is a big mass of orders at 18,000-19,000.


Sellers know that by the time blocks are consumed, the price could be lower than that, so they are willing to take a loss.

Buyers know the price is heading down and by the time the blocks are consumed, the price is probably lower than that. Depends on the buyer what kind of price level he predicts and if the block price is attractive.

Simple Blink

(Spoiler: right now it is silly to be manufacturing Gallente blocks... and same is probably true with Caldari blocks as well as Nitrogen isos are being manipulated upwards by 100-150 ISK P/u at the moment)
Jack Dant
The Gentlemen of Low Moral Fibre
#22 - 2011-12-26 13:11:01 UTC
But blocks can be reprocessed.... Blink

What happens in lowsec, stays in lowsec, lowering the barrier to entry to lowsec PVP: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=476644&#post476644

pmchem
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#23 - 2011-12-26 17:22:09 UTC
Jack Dant wrote:
But blocks can be reprocessed.... Blink


Anyone who took fuel blocks instead of a remap for the christmas gift is bound to be doing dumb things with them.

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CEO Rockhound
suspended animations DOT
#24 - 2011-12-26 23:06:36 UTC
pmchem wrote:
Jack Dant wrote:
But blocks can be reprocessed.... Blink


Anyone who took fuel blocks instead of a remap for the christmas gift is bound to be doing dumb things with them.


What good is a remap?
I regret not taking the AUR
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#25 - 2011-12-26 23:09:31 UTC
pmchem wrote:
Jack Dant wrote:
But blocks can be reprocessed.... Blink


Anyone who took fuel blocks instead of a remap for the christmas gift is bound to be doing dumb things with them.


Now that we know the aurum is tokenized, I have an account that I might have gone aurum on instead of remap, but whatevs.

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Tasko Pal
Spallated Garniferous Schist
#26 - 2011-12-26 23:20:43 UTC
pmchem wrote:
Jack Dant wrote:
But blocks can be reprocessed.... Blink


Anyone who took fuel blocks instead of a remap for the christmas gift is bound to be doing dumb things with them.


We've been over this. Not everyone wants a remap more than they want a quick 70 mil isk. I probably won't remap Tasko before the next remap offer, for example. While I can turn 70 mil into a lot more isk by the time I do want that extra remap.
Slavemaster
ICC - Information Control Corporation
#27 - 2011-12-27 00:41:21 UTC
What everyone forgets is that Oxygen was the most stable isotope to trade in before the "ice war" When the Goons says that they made a huge impact, that everyone stopped using Gallente towers then we are talking 1-2%. Just look at the volumes at Jita, and its the same as before the war.

Everyone that have a Pos, with x many jobs knows it very unpractical to change the towers, even if you want to do it.

Yes, Oxygen will go down, but very slowly.

Oo

Sieges
#28 - 2011-12-27 22:46:05 UTC
corestwo wrote:
We're goons. Ergo, people think that the internal announcement that the interdiction was ending, never [i]technically[/] intended for public distribution, is all an elaborate head fake, meant to crash prices while simultaneously luring bo...err, automated mining individuals...back out into the open so we can re-buy and go on another killing spree.

As a result, the automated mining individuals as well as their uncommon manual breatheren have been slow to return. Combine that with automated market individuals playing the margin despite price falls, and it helps keep the price high because of pressure on the buy order side of things. There's also somewhat less demand now than there was before the interdiction, as all those empire based gallente towers are now empire based caldari towers instead.


But, people will switch back, botters will start mining again, and the price will continue to drop. Give it time.

I am just a lone manual ice miner. I lost a few ships before I figured out what was happening. Is it really over?
corestwo
Goonfleet Investment Banking
#29 - 2011-12-28 14:18:50 UTC
Sieges wrote:
corestwo wrote:
We're goons. Ergo, people think that the internal announcement that the interdiction was ending, never [i]technically[/] intended for public distribution, is all an elaborate head fake, meant to crash prices while simultaneously luring bo...err, automated mining individuals...back out into the open so we can re-buy and go on another killing spree.

As a result, the automated mining individuals as well as their uncommon manual breatheren have been slow to return. Combine that with automated market individuals playing the margin despite price falls, and it helps keep the price high because of pressure on the buy order side of things. There's also somewhat less demand now than there was before the interdiction, as all those empire based gallente towers are now empire based caldari towers instead.


But, people will switch back, botters will start mining again, and the price will continue to drop. Give it time.

I am just a lone manual ice miner. I lost a few ships before I figured out what was happening. Is it really over?


Yes of course everything will be okay.




Twisted

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